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  Secret memo to Circuit Overseers "former child abuser" who was elder\MS moved to another congregation

  by BottleGate_ in

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  2. child-abuse

  in 1998, #watchtower mailed a secret memo to all circuit overseers in which it was announced that when a "former child abuser" who was also an elder or ms moved to another congregation, the new congregation would **not** be informed of his past sins.

  read: institutional cover-up!

  https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1209556534944026624

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  Was going through some letters and here is what I found from 2009 boe letters. This is for australia. Just sharing the lines:

  'Letters of introduction: Generally speaking, when each elder has had opportunity to read the letter, there would be no need for it to be retained..........

  Additionally, any letter of introduction that refers to matters of child abuse should be retained in the confidential file for as long as the accused person remains in the congregation. Should this person move, a new letter should be prepared and sent to the elders in the new congregation outlining the individual's background, current restrictions that apply, what the elders have been doing to protect minors and to assist him, and their present experience with him. In all such cases, a copy of the letter of introduction must be sent to the branch office in a special blue envelope. Any previous letter of introduction held in the congregation's file can then be destroyed.

  PS to secretary: This letter should be retained in the "AUSTRALIA BRANCH" section of the
  congregation's permanent file of policy letters'.
  
  

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  Bounded choice

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  currently reading bounded choice true believers and charismatic cults.

  i am intrigued by this book in the first few sentences and then on find it hard to put it down.. a taster:"these nineteen men, we learned, were part of the worldwide al-qaeda network, which is guided by the elusive and charismatic osama bin laden.

  alqaeda training manuals and handbooks found during intelligence investigations describe the type of indoctrination and training required by bin laden.

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  ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

  "Conventional wisdom tells us that cult members who commit acts against themselves and others must be deranged, unstable, weak-minded, or weak-willed. They must be needy lost souls who cannot think for themselves. Researchers, clinicians, practitioners, and academics, as well as ordinary citizens, have concluded that cult members must be dysfunctional, mentally ill, or coerced by charismatic but insane leaders. The purpose of this book is to contradict these simple formulations and to advance a theory that explains how normal, intelligent, educated people can give up years of their lives—and sometimes their very lives—to groups and beliefs"
  

  Often seen in comments that we were gullible naive, pressured, fools etc upon hwo could we have been in any cult. This book helps see why educated and intelligent ones have fallen for such cults. Do read the book.

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  Bounded choice

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  currently reading bounded choice true believers and charismatic cults.

  i am intrigued by this book in the first few sentences and then on find it hard to put it down.. a taster:"these nineteen men, we learned, were part of the worldwide al-qaeda network, which is guided by the elusive and charismatic osama bin laden.

  alqaeda training manuals and handbooks found during intelligence investigations describe the type of indoctrination and training required by bin laden.

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  Currently reading Bounded Choice True believers and Charismatic Cults

  I am intrigued by this book in the first few sentences and then on find it hard to put it down.

  A taster:"These nineteen men, we learned, were part of the worldwide Al-Qaeda network, which is guided by the elusive and charismatic Osama bin Laden. AlQaeda training manuals and handbooks found during intelligence investigations describe the type of indoctrination and training required by bin Laden. They give precise and detailed instructions on behaviors, dress, social interactions, undercover survival tips, and deadly tactical operations, more or less guiding the daily lives of adherents as they await orders for proceeding on acts of martyrdom."

  I honestly would not have joined the dots to terrorist groups but this book and there is one I read last month helps me connect the dots on how dangerous and destructive groups/cults can get.

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  "Do You think that 8 million are being deceived?" Ways to answer this?

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mine is : jws preach that the entire population of the earth has been deceived ..

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  ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

  The Blind Leading The Blind..simple

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  Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020 is days away.

  has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?

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  ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

  YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

  Please do not forget there are so many protest and activism being done during assemblies and regional conventions. Thats is truly a significant change worth mentioning.

  Other than that Naah!

  Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returns to its vomit,so a fool repeats his folly!

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  New German Files Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new german files arrived.. .

  bewerbungsformular für predigtaktionin „nicht zugeteilten gebieten“.

  s-34-x-153--nr.

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  @ Sektenkult

  Wenn Sie den oben genannten gezippten Ordner benötigen, können Sie ihn jetzt herunterladen.

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  New German Files Arrived!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  new german files arrived.. .

  bewerbungsformular für predigtaktionin „nicht zugeteilten gebieten“.

  s-34-x-153--nr.

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  @ Sektenkult

  Hey Freund, ich weiß nicht, wie deine Situation ist, aber die hochgeladenen Links funktionieren immer nur für einen bestimmten Zeitraum. Der Grund ist der Identitätsschutz und andere Gründe. Wenn Sie Informationen von dieser Site wünschen, müssen Sie häufig aktiv sein, damit Sie keine Dinge verpassen und die Download-Zeiten ablaufen.

  Hoffe das hilft.

  Haben Sie einen guten Tag

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  Those who want to believe in god

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find it funny how many people want to broad cast their religion on fb then whine whine when others critique it.

  its like the ny times saying no one has a right to criticize its oped.

  don't put it on the world wide web if you don't want others opinion on it.

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  I agree with Jimmy Young "Man and Dinosaurs did not exist at the same time by a long shot. The earth is not 6 thousand years old but some 4.5 billion and that is proven by science and radio active decay. Occam's Razor is a good way to look at the bible and religion. Which is more plausible that some goat herders who knew nothing ".

  It is only now after waking up have I realized how gullible I was and trusting of the washtowel that everything is so so different than what jdumbs are taught.

  Washtower...where love crawls to die.

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  Jdumbs Self Preservation tactics

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  currently reading "cults,faith-healing and coercion".

  very informative info on many cults, sects and behaviors.

  reading different books on cults i personally gives me the knowledge to better understand the behavior and thoughts inside ones who are in a cult;which gives me a better handle on how to help wake them up without them going into denial.

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  @Spiral It is my pleasure to share things that I enjoy and that help me, help others too.

  If you have any recommendations,feel free to share with me.At the moment I am going through a phase of trying to read all the culty books I have on my shelf. But it is a challenge coz I have loads and I keep buying more whenever I see them(always looking for books). I love to read obviously.

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  Hey - Cognac here... Dealing with Custody Case

  by BriandMandi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had to create a new account cause i couldn’t login to my old one.. anyways, my ex- a male jw was trying to go for full physical custody of our kids.

  he had his wife call dcf but of course i won.

  he had no leg to stand on.. so, we need to go back to court in february.

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  ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

  Perhaps these books might help

  Youth, Brainwashing and the Extremist Cults, Chapter 8 (Enroth, 1977).........................70
  "Kids 'n' Cults" (Swope, 1980)..................................................................................71
  Influence (Cialdini, 1984) ........................................................................................71
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  For information on the legal implications of child custody when a cult is involve see Kandell, R. F. (1987/88). Litigating the Cult-Related Child Custody Case. Cultic Studies Journal. 4(2)/5(l),122-131.

  
  

  Greene, F (1989). Litigating Child Custody with Religious Cults. Cultic Studies Journal. 6(1), 69-75.
  

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