Posts by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

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Is it possible to nullify a baptism?

by idk123 in

hope you are all well,.

i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.

see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

invalidating your baptism is a hard sell and difficult to prove. Even if you can prove that you were not technically valid for baptism at the time, I've seen the borg argue that your living as one baptised afterward proves that it was valid. I've also seen them pull out the "it was directed by Holy spirit so it must have been valid" card as well.They will talk from both sides of their... just to not let you off their clutches/power trip.

I have never heard of anyone credible successfully getting their baptism deemed invalid.

Sorry that you are in such a situation.

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Appalling start to the new year with this Cult!

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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friends

the cult is so screwed up its appalling!first thing this morning and this shitty text is what i get for the start of the new year.

"the 20th century ended on 31st of december 2000 at 23:59:59 +1 second so technically, yes, the next decade according to that would begin next year.

but the twenties started to day.i hope these are the roaring twenties!

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

The Cult is So Screwed Up Its Appalling!
First thing this morning and this shitty text is what I get for the start of the new year."The 20th century ended on 31st of December 2000 at 23:59:59 +1 second So technically, yes, the next decade according to that would begin next year. But the twenties started to day.I hope these are the roaring twenties! Let's have lots of troubled seas, lots of moral decline (yes, there's still room for more debasement), lets have a big economic crisis in 2029, a fascist global takeover in 2033 and a big war in 2039 - the war to end all wars :)Any earlier would be fine, too."

For all of you have good , wonderful, richly prosperous year.Hope all of you reach where you want to be this year.Zing

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How can a building dedicated to God, be sold?

by krismalone in

i was just wondering this morning about all the kingdom halls and branches being sold to "babylon the great" and other businesses.

every single kingdom hall and bethel branch that has been sold was "dedicated to jehovah" by the watchtower corporation.

a special meeting with a guest speaker gives a talk and then offers a prayer dedicating the building to yhwh.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

The Bible say God does not dwell in handmade temples so why would anyone believe Khalls are dedicated place of worship/temple of god??

Say Anything to build their real estate and then sell it by saying anything ! This is how s### works.

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Another New Idea for Money Grab by the Jdumbs

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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friends

after reading this news perhaps the gb(piss be upon them) might cook up an extra donation requirement for armed bros at the khalls; but we all know where most of the money will end up!.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/.

what are your thoughts.. zing.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Here you go Punkofnice, part of the news:

"Gunman kills 2 at White Settlement church before 2 members fatally shoot him.

Law enforcement officials credited members of the church’s security team for ending the attack quickly.

Updated at 7 a.m. Dec. 30: Revised to include additional information about one of the victims.

A gunman killed two people during a Sunday morning service at a church in White Settlement before members of the congregation fatally shot him, authorities say.

Police in White Settlement, about eight miles west of Fort Worth, were called before 11 a.m. to the West Freeway Church of Christ at 1900 South Las Vegas Trail after two members who are part of the church’s security team opened fire on the gunman.

MedStar spokeswoman Macara Trusty soon reported that the gunman and one of his victims had died at a hospital. The second victim was resuscitated after going into cardiac arrest on the way to a hospital, but authorities announced at an evening news conference that the person died later."

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Another New Idea for Money Grab by the Jdumbs

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

after reading this news perhaps the gb(piss be upon them) might cook up an extra donation requirement for armed bros at the khalls; but we all know where most of the money will end up!.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/.

what are your thoughts.. zing.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

I know the Bible says somewhere those who pick up the sword will die by the sword n all. but have faith in the GB to come up with new light on this matter .If they can fleece the flock they will come up with something.Give it a few years .

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Another New Idea for Money Grab by the Jdumbs

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

jw
friends

after reading this news perhaps the gb(piss be upon them) might cook up an extra donation requirement for armed bros at the khalls; but we all know where most of the money will end up!.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/.

what are your thoughts.. zing.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

After reading this news perhaps the GB(piss be upon them) might cook up an extra donation requirement for armed bros at the Khalls; but we all know where most of the money will end up!

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/12/29/2-dead-1-in-critical-condition-after-reported-shooting-at-church-in-white-settlement/

What are your thoughts.

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Are JW's unknowingly part of a CULT?

by The Fall Guy in

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some points for awakening jw's to consider in 2020: .

"joining a cult: religious choice or psychological aberration" by dena s. davis.

some of the following characteristics are listed:.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

In some religious cults, as shown in Debbie's experience, converts are introduced to the group's ideology only after they have affiliated. Once they have identified with the group's general orientation, though, they accept the particulars of belief quite readily when these are spelled out (jdumb strategy at work is it not). (From the book Cults Faith Healing n Coercion)

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Are JW's unknowingly part of a CULT?

by The Fall Guy in

jw
friends

some points for awakening jw's to consider in 2020: .

"joining a cult: religious choice or psychological aberration" by dena s. davis.

some of the following characteristics are listed:.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Cults appeal to that part of us that wants something better. A better world for others or a better self—these are the genuine, heartfelt desires of decent, honest human beings. Cult recruiters are trained in how to play on those desires, how to make it look as though what the cult has to offer is exactly what you're interested in. Cults can be formed around almost any topic; there are nine broad categories of cults: religious, Eastern-based, New Age, business, political, psychotherapy/human potential, occult, one-on-one, and miscellaneous (such as lifestyle or personality cults). All cults, no matter their stripe, are a variation on a theme, for their common denominator is the use of coercive persuasion and behavior control without the knowledge of the person who is being manipulated. They manage this by targeting (and eventually attacking, dissembling, and reformulating according to the cult's desired image) a person's innermost self. (Reparing the soul after a cult book)

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Bounded choice

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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currently reading bounded choice true believers and charismatic cults.

i am intrigued by this book in the first few sentences and then on find it hard to put it down.. a taster:"these nineteen men, we learned, were part of the worldwide al-qaeda network, which is guided by the elusive and charismatic osama bin laden.

alqaeda training manuals and handbooks found during intelligence investigations describe the type of indoctrination and training required by bin laden.

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Truly a compelling book.Loving it through and through. If you are looking to understand cult mind control, you will want to read this book. Janja Lalich, a professor of sociology, is herself a mind control cult survivor. She writes with great insight into the dynamics in high demand groups. I found it hard to put the book down.

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Secret memo to Circuit Overseers "former child abuser" who was elder\MS moved to another congregation

by BottleGate_ in

in 1998, #watchtower mailed a secret memo to all circuit overseers in which it was announced that when a "former child abuser" who was also an elder or ms moved to another congregation, the new congregation would **not** be informed of his past sins.

read: institutional cover-up!

https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1209556534944026624

ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara

Was going through some letters and here is what I found from 2009 boe letters. This is for australia. Just sharing the lines:

'Letters of introduction: Generally speaking, when each elder has had opportunity to read the letter, there would be no need for it to be retained..........

Additionally, any letter of introduction that refers to matters of child abuse should be retained in the confidential file for as long as the accused person remains in the congregation. Should this person move, a new letter should be prepared and sent to the elders in the new congregation outlining the individual's background, current restrictions that apply, what the elders have been doing to protect minors and to assist him, and their present experience with him. In all such cases, a copy of the letter of introduction must be sent to the branch office in a special blue envelope. Any previous letter of introduction held in the congregation's file can then be destroyed.

PS to secretary: This letter should be retained in the "AUSTRALIA BRANCH" section of the
congregation's permanent file of policy letters'.

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