@Minimus..
Thank you.There is quite a few references which will make this too long a comment so refrained from it. Good topic though.
Zing
it seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
@Minimus..
Thank you.There is quite a few references which will make this too long a comment so refrained from it. Good topic though.
Zing
it seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
Also where in the bible does it mention that one needs to go and confess ones secret sins to the eldumbs? please enlighten me.
Another culty tactic for a power trip.
Zing
it seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
w02 4/1 page 19/20 para 18
What if a serious concealed sin is bothering your conscience and weakening your resolve to live up to your dedication to God? If you are repentant, you can take comfort in the knowledge that Jehovah ‘will not despise a heart broken and crushed.’ (Psalm 51:17) Seek the help of loving Christian elders, knowing that they—in imitation of Jehovah—will not treat lightly your desire to experience the restoration of a good relationship with your heavenly Father. (Psalm 103:10-14; James 5:13-15) Then with a renewal of spiritual strength and a steadfast heart, you will be able to make straight paths for your feet and find it possible to live up to your dedication to God
Let me know please if after confessing your secret sins anyone has felt rejuvenated, renewal of spiritual strength at all.
Zing
it seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
This made me laugh.
W 10 11/15 page 6/7PARA 18 SAYS THIS: What should you do if you have secretly been engaging in conduct that you know to be wrong? Remember, “he that is covering over his transgressions will not succeed, but he that is confessing and leaving them will be shown mercy.” (Prov. 28:13) How unwise it would be to continue in a wrong course and “be grieving God’s holy spirit”! (Eph. 4:30) You really owe it to God, to your parents, and to yourself to confess any wrongdoing. In this regard, “the older men of the congregation” can do a great deal for you. The disciple James says: “Let them pray over [the wrongdoer], greasing him with oil in the name of Jehovah. And the prayer of faith will make the indisposed one well, and Jehovah will raise him up. Also, if he has committed sins, it will be forgiven him.” (Jas. 5:14, 15) Admittedly, this may result in some embarrassment and perhaps some unpleasant consequences. But if you have the courage to ask for help, you will spare yourself any further damage and will feel the relief that comes from regaining a clear conscience.—Ps. 32:1-5.
God says he will forgive our sins yet the eldumbs do not! Confessing cause not some embarassment,unpleasant consequences....quite the opposite, it brings a person down, breaks relationships and eldumbs have a field day!Talk about relief that comes from a clean conscience..no way you get more disturbed and upset and stressed and distressed by the treatment of the eldumbs.
I say if you have a clean conscience , then it is a clear sign of bad memory !
Zing
it seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
Ah ha ! secret sins or more like give us a list of to-do things to rev-up our secret lives, at the same time enjoy some sheeple squirm.Time to use that whip again which makes them feel important ! Go get our brooms !
Zing
jesus described himself as a 'ransom' (matthew 20:28) and the following statement summarises the the fairy story which j.w.
's are sold as "truth" -.
w96 11/1 p. 9 par.
Where can I get a SWAP like this , old for younger ????
Zing
here is a post i found.
boy the wife has balls of steel !
you decide.. {they stopped by yesterday to invite my wife to the memorial.. my wife is fully awake thanks to one of my daughters!
@Jwgonebad...
Sorry to hear that elders are after you ! Hope you can get out smoothly. The elders think they own each of the sheep. They dont listen to reason ! Hell they dont even give people a free will to choose, change their mind after dedication, as if we owe them anything. To god we made the dedication not to them dingbats!
Hang on in there buddy and I hope you come out of it victorious!
Zing
here is a post i found.
boy the wife has balls of steel !
you decide.. {they stopped by yesterday to invite my wife to the memorial.. my wife is fully awake thanks to one of my daughters!
@ Jwgonebad..
I was not actually comparing her(skilled gal) with me but the elders (scurrying away saying people are waiting for us) , with me. I used to say the same and clear off. therefore the "sadly" in my comment to JP. You misunderstood. I started off this post saying "The wife has balls of steel".
Zing
i have been in crisis regarding the international problem of the way child abuse has been handled in the wt organization.
i have been dealing with serious health issues that made it necessary for me to go on permanent disability since 2015. since then my health has gotten worse making it nearly impossible to attend meetings.
in this period i have received no spiritual or other help of any kind.
to everyone who needs it and those who dont !
Zing
i have been in crisis regarding the international problem of the way child abuse has been handled in the wt organization.
i have been dealing with serious health issues that made it necessary for me to go on permanent disability since 2015. since then my health has gotten worse making it nearly impossible to attend meetings.
in this period i have received no spiritual or other help of any kind.
@ Tameria...Not once did anyone call or stop by to see how we were doing, not even to bring us spiritual food. The only thing they said to me was that I had better make it to the upcoming district convention.
My experience exactly, except more was added by an elder saying get your act together and get to the meetings regularly (although had been regular for years but coz of sickness and deaths in the family, and accidents was irregular). Boy could I have exploded, my blood boiled and this made me more draw away from people who say they love me and did not care to help me , support me, comfort me when I was so in need !
So much for saying we are all one body, spiritual family, international brotherhood blah...blah..blah...I have seen it all and am disgusted with it all.
Zing