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Only baptised JWs will make it?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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Jesus started the congregation (his body) back in the first century. The message to "the congregations" in Revelation isn't just for "Jehovah's Witnesses" as an org. It's to all "the congregations" that can trace their origin back to that time in the first century. All who claim to be Christian can trace their origin back to that time, not just "Jehovah's Witnesses".

The direction to the seven congregations shows that some congregations have sectarianism. Some have immorality. Some have idolatry.

Jesus said he had some faithful sheep scattered in all those places. He knows where they are.

"The congregation" doesn't just mean "baptized Jehovah's Witnesses." Jesus knows who is one of his sheep. He didn't receive the kingdom in 1914. When he receives the kingdom in heaven, then he will send out his angels and they will remove the weedlike false teachings and the hypocritical people from all the "Christians" and then "at that time the righteous ones will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father."

As regards "non-Christians" and whether they will be "saved"...

If Abraham could be God's friend before being baptized, then a person can be a sheep without being baptized.

"I have other sheep, who are not of this fold..."

A great crowd of "unbelievers" went out of Egypt with the Israelites. They didn't have time to have a long history of "works that befit repentance". They didn't have time to learn everything about Jehovah. At the last minute, when they saw all their idols destroyed and a great tribulation on Egypt, they said "we will go with you people, for we have heard God is with you people." It was enough for Jehovah.

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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Why are you asking? Do you now believe that Jesus is Michael too?

If you don't believe that Jesus is Michael, then why are you asking? If Jesus isn't Michael, then there is no need for you to ask me how to show proskyneo to him.

That showing Michael proskyneo is scriptural even Joshua wrote about:

"When Joshua was near Jerʹi·cho, he looked up and saw a man standing in front of him with a drawn sword in his hand. Joshua walked up to him and asked: “Are you on our side or on the side of our adversaries?” To this he said: “No, but I have come as prince of Jehovah’s army.” With that Joshua fell with his face to the ground and prostrated himself and said to him: “What does my lord have to say to his servant?” The prince of Jehovah’s army replied to Joshua: “Remove your sandals from your feet, because the place where you are standing is holy.” At once Joshua did so." (Joshua 5:13-15)

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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Of course, I am very concerned for you...you keep saying that Jesus was never dead.

If you think he was never dead, then you must also think he was never raised from the dead, and, as you said...

God says if we believe Jesus' body wasn't raised from the dead ... "we are still in our sins". "

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

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Same to you, my brother🥰

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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"Now one of the wives of the sons of the prophets cried out to E·liʹsha, saying: “Your servant my husband is dead, and you well know that your servant had always feared Jehovah. Now a creditor has come to take both of my children as his slaves.” At this E·liʹsha said to her: “What can I do for you? Tell me, what do you have in the house?” She replied: “Your servant has nothing at all in the house but a jar of oil.” Then he said: “Go outside, ask for containers from all your neighbors, empty containers. Do not limit yourself to a few. Then go in and close the door behind you and your sons. Fill all these containers, and set the full ones aside.” So she left him. When she closed the door behind her and her sons, they passed the containers to her, and she kept pouring. When the containers were full, she said to one of her sons: “Bring another container to me.” But he said to her: “There are no more containers.” At that the oil stopped. So she came in and told the man of the true God, and he said: “Go, sell the oil and pay off your debts, and you and your sons can live from what is left.”" (2 Kings 4:1-7)

It's possible for a poor woman or her neighbors to empty a container that it may receive more oil from God.

How much more so it's possible for God to empty a grave of a body that He may replace it with a spirit body.

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Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some areas that i have found:.

not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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"relationship (noun) - the way in which two or more concepts, objects, or people are connected, or the state of being connected."

Yes, all of our lives are connected in a way with Michael the archangel.

I agree, we should stick to him.🥰

"Then a voice came out of the cloud, saying: “This is my Son, the one who has been chosen. Listen to him.” As the voice spoke, Jesus was found alone." (Luke 9:35,36)

"...the head, to the one through whom the whole body is supplied and harmoniously joined together by means of its joints and ligaments and made to grow with the growth that is from God." (Colossians 2:19)

"A man who loves his wife loves himself, for no man ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cherishes it, just as the Christ does the congregation, because we are members of his body. “For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh.” This sacred secret is great. Now I am speaking about Christ and the congregation." (Ephesians 5:28-32)

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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what happened to Jesus body

Jesus was resurrected as a mighty spirit creature, but as to your question about what happened to the body of flesh that he sacrificed...

What happened to Moses' body? What happened to Enoch's body?

"For he well knows how we are formed,

Remembering that we are dust."

"...return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return."

"His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground;

On that very day his thoughts perish."

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

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Good job, Kosonen🙂 Jesus must be so proud of the love and zeal you show.💖

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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Air is made up of gases. When these gases heat and cool over the land and water near the ocean, it forms a sea breeze. A sea breeze is full of gas.

Sea Breeze, I have no idea what you are talking about - I said nothing about Jesus body and gas. I quoted Ecclesiastes 9:10 about there being no work in the Grave.

When Jesus resurrected the young man on a funeral bier, the young man raised up his body by sitting up. "With that he approached and touched the bier, and the bearers stood still. Then he said: “Young man, I say to you, get up!” And the dead man sat up..."

After Jesus resurrected Lazarus, then Lazarus raised up his body after being dead a few days when he walked out of the grave. "The man who had been dead came out..."

When Jesus resurrected the little girl, then she immediately raised herself up in response to Jesus' command: "Then, taking the hand of the child, he said to her: “Talʹi·tha cuʹmi,” which, when translated, means: “Little girl, I say to you, get up!” And immediately the girl rose and began walking..."

Jesus resurrected the people. Then they raised up their body and walked in obedience to Jesus' command.

Jehovah resurrected Jesus. Then Jesus raised up his new spirit body and did what Jehovah told him to do - materialize a human body so that he could talk to and hug and eat with the disciples before ascending to heaven.

"Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”"

To "raise up" a temple that's been torn down doesn't mean you have to use the same stones.

When the Babylonians tore down Solomon's temple, was the next temple rebuilt with the exact same stones? Did it look the same?

Sea Breeze, Jesus openly stated that he would be killed. In order to be considered "killed" he needed to be 100% dead.

"Jesus began explaining to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes and be killed, and on the third day be raised up. At this Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him, saying: “Be kind to yourself, Lord; you will not have this happen to you at all.” But turning his back, he said to Peter: “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me, because you think, not God’s thoughts, but those of men.”"

I do think it is bad to contradict Jesus.

"Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. Really, what good will it do a man if he gains the whole world but loses his life? Or what will a man give in exchange for his life? For the Son of man is to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then he will repay each one according to his behavior."

Sea Breeze, true Christians have to be willing to die 100% for Christ. We don't like to die, we don't want to die, but we have to be willing to die 100% when that time comes that we have to choose between being obedient to Christ and being obedient to men.

"And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me."

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

EasyPrompt

Revelation 11 shows that the "two witnesses" won't be identifiable by people in general until after the great tribulation begins.