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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

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in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

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Since all true Christians are "contenders with God" they are all "Israelites" really.

It is the context in the Bible that shows which "Israel" is being spoken of in which verse.

Since the 144,000 in Revelation are said to be taken "out of all Israel" it stands to reason that the anointed 144,000 are taken out of all Christians.

In that context, Israel = all Christians.

When Jesus said to the faithful apostles that they would sit on 12 thrones to judge all Israel, he didn't mean the literal nation of Israel, he meant all believers.

Israel = all Christians.

When it says in Revelation that "a great crowd out of all nations and tribes and tongues" joins "Israel", it is talking about non-believers who will be saved, just like there was a great crowd of non-believers who went out of Egypt with the Jews at the end of the tribulation in that day, those who said "we will go with you people, for we have heard that God is with you people".

The Bible is clear that there will be a great crowd of non-believers who survive the great tribulation.

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Emails reveal Jehovah's Witnesses response to child sex abuse allegations (FOX43)

by Tahoe in

https://www.fox43.com/article/news/local/jehovahs-witnesses-emails-child-sex-abuse-allegations/521-d7ead034-ae47-4451-82e4-337190539602.

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(there are also more emails posted on this thread that show how some JW elders handled other types of reported abuse https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6553089276903424/three-amish-bishops-who-told-woman-rescind-protective-order-against-husband-guilty-intimidation )

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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There's a lot of text, but it's all just an excuse, the point is that you can't refute its content

Yes, I noticed too that there is a lot of text on those websites you linked and the articles you cut and pasted. Thank you for being forthright that it's an excuse, that is humble of you. But you don't have to rely on the writings of other people. Let Jesus help you speak instead. Use the Bible instead of the writings of others. Then instead of "refuting content" (which I did refute quite clearly, but if you missed it we can do it again) we can talk about pure words of truth.☺️

"I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him." (1 John 2:26,27)

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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@aqwsed12345...

I am not sure why you keep wanting me to read these anti-Watchtower articles.

I have been disfellowshipped by the WTBT$. They banned me from going to meetings and they banned me from going to assemblies and conventions. I am not allowed on the KH property. They consider me to be a wicked apostate deserving of death and mentally diseased.

I believe in Bible truths. My acceptance of beliefs is not based on what is written in a Watchtower publication, it's based on what is written in the Bible and in harmony with holy spirit.

You can keep posting "How to Preach to a Jehovah's Witness" all you want, but you're barking up the wrong tree.

For one thing, not all of the Jehovah's Witnesses teachings are wrong just because Jehovah's Witnesses believe them. There was a Flood in Noah's day. Jehovah and Jesus are two different people. There will be a literal paradise on the earth again.

For another thing, I don't believe something just because the Jehovah's Witnesses borg believes it, so I don't know if you're assuming that or whatever, but just chucking a bunch of text at me that someone else wrote doesn't do anything. Jehovah's Witnesses borg doesn't believe Jesus and Jehovah will walk on the earth, but the Bible teaches they will. Jehovah's Witnesses borg doesn't believe certain people will survive Armageddon, but the Bible teaches they will.

And thirdly, a lot of that stuff you just posted is kind of antiquated and most of the JWborg people don't even believe some of what you said (like that "gasses" thing and stuff from "Studies in the Scriptures". Your average JW will have no clue what you are talking about.)

If you want to talk about a verse, why not just tell me in your own words what you think instead of posting a bunch of stuff from somebody else? It's kind of the same thing they do at the carts where they just say "go to the website". It makes me think you're not really confident in what you're saying, and it undermines your argument rather than supporting it.

I appreciate that you want to talk, though, so thank you for making the effort.🙂

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

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@menrov and @Rattigan350...

I am sorry you two have been so hurt by "religious" people who do not reflect God's Love and His truth.

I wish I could make all your pain go away and help you trust Him again right now, but I can't.

It takes time to heal and to trust. He isn't the One who broke your trust, but He got blamed for it. Someday you'll see it wasn't His fault.

He Loves you. He hasn't left you. He isn't the One who caused the pain. He's going to fix it. You'll know that eventually. I'm sorry you are in pain.🌷

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

jw
friends

in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

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please. Stop being so nit picketing

Hi, @Rattigan!

Nit Picking vs Nit Picketing.

Words mean things. I think there is a difference between Picketing Nits and Picking Nits, but you seem to have a different way of comprehension and understanding.

I don't have any Nits. Don't want any. You are welcome to have Picketing Nits if you want to, Rattigan, but I think that sounds gross!😜

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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Fun! I like it🥰

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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Dear Vander, my brother...

There is so much work to be done in the days ahead shepherding the Lord's sheep. It is good for us to work together. We are all sinners and we are all in need of the mercy of the Lord. He will make things clear at the appointed time as regards all of these scriptural understandings.

We agree that Jesus didn't come with the clouds of heaven in 1914. That's something!🙂

Love is the most important thing. We have love. The rest will come. We will keep showing love to each other and the Lord's little sheep.

Thank you for sharing the Tommy Walker song with me the other day. I love music. Here is another song I like about Jesus. It makes me think about all the sheep that will coming "home" to his embrace in the days ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck58d3BMBX0

Your sister in the Lord, 💖Audrey

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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"Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming." (Matthew 24:42)

"But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it." (Matthew 24:43-44)

"You also, keep ready, because at an hour that you do not think likely, the Son of man is coming." (Luke 12:40)

"And then they will see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory." (Mark 13:26)

"And then they will see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." (Luke 21:27)

When the Christians fled Jerusalem in the first century, they didn't "see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." They saw the Roman armies coming with power and glory for men.

"But as these things start to occur, stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near." (Luke 21:27,28)

When the Christians fled Jerusalem in the first century, they didn't have "deliverance". They were fleeing. Fleeing isn't "deliverance".

When Jesus visibly comes to the rescue at the end of the great tribulation, that will be deliverance.

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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You still didn't answer my question:

If you think the tribulation already came and went, then what is it you think he was talking about when he said "Keep on the watch"?"