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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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"It was not because you were the most numerous of all the peoples that Jehovah showed affection for you and chose you, for you were the smallest of all the peoples." (Deuteronomy 7:7)

There is no group that is too small to be noticed by Jehovah. Any group that claims to represent Him is certainly noticed by Him.

"Aha! the As·syrʹi·an,

The rod to express my anger

And the staff in their hand for my denunciation!

I will send him against an apostate nation,

Against the people who infuriated me;

I will command him to take much spoil and much plunder

And to trample them like mud in the streets.

But he will not be inclined this way

And his heart will not scheme this way;

For it is in his heart to annihilate,

To cut off many nations, not a few."

(Isaiah 10:5-7)

Israel was a small nation, and from the point of view of the nations, perhaps there were other nations from which the Assyrians could have stripped more spoil, but Jehovah put it into the heart of the Assyrians to go against "an apostate nation."

The locusts of Revelation only attack for five months, about 150 days.

Daniel 8:13,14 says "And an army was given over, together with the constant feature, because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success. And I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one speaking: “How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?” So he said to me: “Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.”

One evening plus one morning equals one day. 2,300 evenings and mornings is the same as 1,150 mornings plus 1,150 evenings, which is the same as 1,150 days.

As far as the timeline of the great tribulation goes, it seems that after Satan is cast out of heaven and riles up the UN, the initial part of the attack on religion will be very harsh for 150 days. By the 1,150th day, Jesus' angels will have refined the Christian congregation. (Removing the weeds and leaven, gathering the wheat together.) The tribulation will still last the full 3 1/2 years. The UN will rule as the dominant world power for 3 1/2 years, as the feet of the Daniel chapter 2 dream image.

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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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Where do you get your 3 1/2 years?"

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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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Hi, @Vidqun🙂...

"Why would the locust-scorpions attack religious institutions, starting with the Bethels? They don't distinguish the religious or non-religious."

Locusts are hungry and "fleshly". The religious institutions have amassed wealth. It is the physical, visible wealth of the different religious institutions that the locusts will attack, similar to what the locusts in Joel attacked. As far as the JWborg is concerned, that would mean real estate holdings, investments, the Bethels, the KHs, etc.

"The only ones that's exempt are those with God's seal (Rev. 9:4)."

Ezekiel also talks about those who are marked for survival. Ezekiel chapters 8 and 9 describes some nasty things going on among those who claim to be God's Name people. In Ezekiel 9:4 Jehovah says, “Go through the city, through Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the city." This marking is not about surviving Armageddon. It's not talking about among the nations. It's specific. It's about those among God's Name people who are disturbed by the nasty false religious stuff and the hypocritical reproachful conduct of those who claim to be also worshippers of Jehovah.

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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@Vanderhoven...

As regards Jesus' coming and that Etta James song cover you posted, it echos the sentiments of the Song of songs...

"Place me as a seal upon your heart,

As a seal upon your arm,

For love is as strong as death is,

And exclusive devotion is as unyielding as the Grave.

Its flames are a blazing fire, the flame of Jah.

Surging waters cannot extinguish love,

Nor can rivers wash it away...

Hurry, my dear one,

And be swift like a gazelle

Or a young stag

Upon the mountains of spices.”

(Song of Solomon 8:6,7,14)

How we will all sing and rejoice "at last!" when the day of Jesus' arrival is here!💖🥰

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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💖☺️

Yes, and it makes me think of this one that I also love...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PuumTWL9G4

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Abaddon the destroyer is he Jesus?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

rev 9:11 the angel with the key to the abyss is called abaddon which means destroyer.. the cross references show jw doctrine teaches he is jesus himself using the account in luke where jesus got the demons out of that girl and they said don’t throw us into the abyss.

and revalation 20:1 shows an angel with the key to the abyss.. either watchtower are right and it’s jesus or there are more than one angel with the key to the abyss.. if it is jesus the destroyer of souls it sounds like conan the destroyer.. from the research guide-abaddon, the angel of the abyss—who is he?.

at revelation 9:11, however, the word “abaddon” is used as the name of “the angel of the abyss.” the corresponding greek name apollyon means “destroyer.” in the 19th century there were efforts made to show that this text prophetically applied to individuals such as emperor vespasian, muhammad, and even napoleon, and the angel was generally regarded as “satanic.” it should be noted, however, that at revelation 20:1-3 the angel having “the key of the abyss” is shown to be god’s representative from heaven, and rather than being “satanic,” he binds and hurls satan into the abyss.

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Abaddon is Satan.

The locusts are the UN.

The UN will destroy religious institutions, including the institution of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Judas was called "the son of destruction" and Achan was called "the son of destruction". Satan is Abaddon and Apollyon. The locusts in Joel were the nations that Jehovah allowed to attack "Jehovah's name people" (and others) for their unfaithfulness.

The scriptures show that the locusts in Revelation have Satan as their leader. They are the UN and their associates of the nations who will attack all religious institutions. The worst part of the attack will be the first five months of the great tribulation. (The entire tribulation is 3 1/2 years, but the first five months will be the worst for Jehovah's name people. The attack starts at the Bethels.)

Ezekiel 9:6, Revelations 9:5,10

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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I love it!

JWborg singing can be very boring. I love some of the songs that have been released and the music itself, but sometimes the KH singing can be really flat and uninvolved.

Here are some songs of praise and faith that I really like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcU57tAKzng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5u0EFwSezg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPw9eUImig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBIxScJ5rlY

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Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

by Fisherman in

take for example revelation 21: 10. .

“….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

here john sees something happening, action.

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I wish Zoom was better at synchronizing singing - I bet it would be fun to sing praises with you, Vander!🎶

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

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"These men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are subverting the faith of some." (2 Timothy 2:18)

Yeah, WTBT$ be like Hymenaues and Philetus...

"But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Hy·me·naeʹus and Phi·leʹtus are among them. These men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred, and they are subverting the faith of some." (2 Timothy 2:16-18)

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

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in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

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Since all true Christians are "contenders with God" they are all "Israelites" really.

It is the context in the Bible that shows which "Israel" is being spoken of in which verse.

Since the 144,000 in Revelation are said to be taken "out of all Israel" it stands to reason that the anointed 144,000 are taken out of all Christians.

In that context, Israel = all Christians.

When Jesus said to the faithful apostles that they would sit on 12 thrones to judge all Israel, he didn't mean the literal nation of Israel, he meant all believers.

Israel = all Christians.

When it says in Revelation that "a great crowd out of all nations and tribes and tongues" joins "Israel", it is talking about non-believers who will be saved, just like there was a great crowd of non-believers who went out of Egypt with the Jews at the end of the tribulation in that day, those who said "we will go with you people, for we have heard that God is with you people".

The Bible is clear that there will be a great crowd of non-believers who survive the great tribulation.