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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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aqwsed12345, I appreciate that you are trying so hard - please, I know this isn't the first time I've mentioned this to you, but I am not a member of the Watchtower. They kicked me out when I told on bad elders because it's against their WT theology to tell on bad elders. I obey God as ruler rather than man. My faith is not based on Watchtower doctrines, my faith is based on the Bible, common sense, and the direction of holy spirit, which includes love. Most Jehovah's Witnesses today don't study that old Trinity brochure you linked anyway. I don't know where you get your info on "how to preach to exJWs" but perhaps it's a little outdated?

Jesus' example in the Bible proves that God is not a Trinity. We look at Jesus in the gospels and see that he was a solid personality. He wasn't some kind of triple-minded dude.

If Jehovah was some kind of "3-in-1" thing, then wouldn't Jesus, as the reflection of the Father, also be some kind of "3-in-1" thing? And then, mathematically speaking, wouldn't those "reflections" keep mirroring back and forth into infinity exponentially increasing forever?

The truth is way simpler. Jesus was not complicated. He reflected Our Father, who is also not complicated.

The Bible says that man is made in God's image. Jesus was a perfect man. Jesus didn't have "three essences." He got along with simple people, like fishermen and prostitutes and ex-cons. It was the scribe-type people who didn't understand Jesus, because they made things too complicated and they couldn't believe God's Son would be uncomplicated and easy to be around.

"At that time Jesus said in response: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him. Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for yourselves. For my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.”"

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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@aqwsed12345...

"Higher" math in the Bible isn't more complicated. It's more simple.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah.

"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,

So my ways are higher than your ways

And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Love is the Higher Way. It's common knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=524Tf0dNRNw

It doesn't take more education to understand the Father and His Way. It takes More Love to understand Him.

(Even a kid can understand love and the nature of the God of Love.)

"In that very hour he became overjoyed in the holy spirit and said: “I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have carefully hidden these things from wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."

Jesus is the Way to understand the Father because Jesus' way was Love. He demonstrated what the Father is like because he's just like his Dad.

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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Dear aqwsed12345...I went to your website link, but if God was really a "mystery" then why did Jesus say even a kid could understand what God is like? Jesus said God is a Father. A kid understand what a Father is...

"So calling a young child to him, he stood him in their midst and said: “Truly I say to you, unless you turn around and become as young children, you will by no means enter into the Kingdom of the heavens."

A young child is humble.

Fancy "overeducated" people are usually not very humble.

If Jesus and Jehovah could only be understood by fancy overeducated people, then why did Jesus say to become like a little child?

"When the chief priests and the scribes saw the marvelous things he did and the boys who were shouting in the temple, “Save, we pray, the Son of David!” they became indignant and said to him: “Do you hear what these are saying?” Jesus said to them: “Yes. Did you never read this, ‘Out of the mouth of children and infants, you have brought forth praise’?”"

A person doesn't need a fancy theocratic education to understand that God is the Father and that Jesus is a different person, namely, God's Son.

We can praise Jehovah and praise Jesus even if we are simple. Even kids can understand the difference between a Father and His Son. It's not a mystery.🥰 It's close to home.

"But the righteousness resulting from faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ that is, to bring Christ down, or, ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’ that is, to bring Christ up from the dead.” But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your own mouth and in your own heart”; that is, “the word” of faith, which we are preaching." (Romans 10:6-8)

The reason the ransom sacrifice was a sacrifice was because Jesus was such a Beloved Son to Our Father. That's what made it a sacrifice. Because it Hurt Him to Give It.💔❣️

He gave it because He loves you just as much. He sees Your Potential. The sacrifice was Worth It to Him, for Each One of His Kids.💝

"For the promise is to you and your children, and to all those who are far away, to all those whom Jehovah our God may call to himself.” (Acts 2:39)

"God is Love." That He gave His only-begotten Son proves it.💖🙂

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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@aqwsed, I know you said you won some math contests...do you like "absolute value"? It's one of my favorite functions!

Here for you is a complicated explanation of absolute value function (also known as "modulus")...

"An absolute value function is an important function in algebra that consists of the variable in the absolute value bars. The general form of the absolute value function is f(x) = a |x - h| + k and the most commonly used form of this function is f(x) = |x|, where a = 1 and h = k = 0. The range of this function f(x) = |x| is always non-negative and on expanding the absolute value function f(x) = |x|, we can write it as x, if x ≥ 0 and -x, if x < 0." (from cuemath.com)

A simplified definition is that the absolute value of any number is the same number with a positive sign. For example, if you were to take the absolute value of "-1" it would equal positive one. So if a person got like 50 downvotes and you were to take the absolute value of those downvotes it would turn out to be 50 upvotes! 😃

Kind of like in principle described here..."Beloved ones, do not be surprised about the fiery trials that you are experiencing, as though something strange were happening to you. On the contrary, go on rejoicing over the extent to which you are sharers in the sufferings of the Christ, so that you may rejoice and be overjoyed also during the revelation of his glory. If you are being reproached for the name of Christ, you are happy, because the spirit of glory, yes, the spirit of God, is resting upon you."

Absolute value is a cool function.😎

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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I can see you like multiplication a lot!🙂

I'm not into psychology, but I have heard of something called "multiple personality disorder" that sounds kind of like what you're describing.

1 Corinthians 14:33 says "For God is a God not of disorder but of peace."

(I appreciate, aqwsed12345, that you used your own expressions in that last post - it's a lot easier to read than the cut-n-pasted stuff from other "scholar" peoples' websites. Thank you!)

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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"If you're already asking about my math knowledge, let me note that I was a multiple math contest winner during my high school years. And for this stupid "1 + 1 + 1 = 3" argument, just that, of course, the fact that there are three divine persons does not mean that there are three Gods, since the three divine persons share the on Deity, they are the subsistences of one Godhead."

"Multiplication" math is different than "addition" math. And word problems are difficult for some people, aqwsed12345, so I understand if it's not easy for you.

The word problem "One God plus one Son plus one holy spirit equals three things" can be expressed mathematically by the equation: 1 + 1 + 1 = 3. You don't even need a multiplication symbol!

That's nice that you won some multiple math contests in high school. Good job! 😃 The nice thing about Love is that whether you are a "winner" or a "loser" in math, God is not partial.

"Because a foolish thing of God is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God is stronger than men. For you see his calling of you, brothers, that there are not many wise in a fleshly way, not many powerful, not many of noble birth, but God chose the foolish things of the world to put the wise men to shame; and God chose the weak things of the world to put the strong things to shame; and God chose the insignificant things of the world and the things looked down on, the things that are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, so that no one might boast in the sight of God."

Romans 9:5 shows that God was not partial to just the Israelites when it came to providing a ransom. Today, He is not partial to just Christians. God will save many who today are non-Christians too by means of the ransom.

"However, it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who descend from Israel are really “Israel.”"

Not all who claim to be "Christian" today act like Christians. There are many "non-Christians" today who act more like Christ than some "Christians" do. God knows where they all are, and He will not be ashamed to call them His children.

"For, indeed, while we were still weak, Christ died for ungodly men at the appointed time...God recommends his own love to us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

@aqwsed12345: 💖🫶💞💝🙂🌷

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

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SeaBreeze: "Do you think it is possible that one verse is talking about your body, and the other verse is talking about a born again believers' new spirit - both of which are "you", individually and/or collectively?"

I don't believe in ancient Egyptian theology, like that "ka" "ba" "akh" thing.

SeaBreeze: "If not, please explain how a believer can both sin and "cannot sin" at the same time."

At Romans 7:21-25 Paul already explained it.

"I find, then, this law in my case: When I wish to do what is right, what is bad is present with me. I really delight in the law of God according to the man I am within, but I see in my body another law warring against the law of my mind and leading me captive to sin’s law that is in my body. Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from the body undergoing this death? Thanks to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So, then, with my mind I myself am a slave to God’s law, but with my flesh to sin’s law."

SeaBreeze: "Do you have family still in?"

Aye, captain.

aqwsed12345: "Please calculate for me mathematically:
1 x 1 x 1 = ?"

I can see word problems aren't your strong suit. When adding, you use the addition sign, not the multiplication sign. That's okay, a lot of kids have issues with word problems. You're not alone.😊

aqwsed12345: "We could also say, as Hilary of Poitiers does...John Chrysostom explained the statement..."

I thought we were talking about Romans 9:5? Did I somehow get mixed up onto the wrong thread? I know Jesus, and I've heard of Paul, but who are Hilary of Poiters and John Chrysostom?

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time."

Romans 9:5 is talking about our mediator, the Christ, who came in the flesh, being born in the line of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That he is a blessing for all is from God. Amen.

"I am telling the truth in Christ; I am not lying, as my conscience bears witness with me in holy spirit, that I have great grief and unceasing pain in my heart. For I could wish that I myself were separated from the Christ as the cursed one for the sake of my brothers, my relatives according to the flesh, who are Israelites. To them belong the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the sacred service and the promises. To them the forefathers belong, and from them the Christ descended according to the flesh. God, who is over all, be praised forever. Amen."

Just like many Israelites in the first century stumbled over traditions and over-analysis of scripture and missed the big picture, so it is the same today. They couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Love is the important thing. Romans 9:5 is about Love. God sent Jesus because of Love, and Paul was saying "may the Lord be praised because of that love. Amen."

Hope y'all have a nice day. 🥰

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

EasyPrompt

What do you call friends who love math? Give up? Algebros! 😜

"You keep trying to add the word "practice" as if this will make the problem smaller."

They say "practice makes perfect", so if you keep practicing "1+1+1" you will get three eventually.

It seems you're the one who keeps trying to make the problem "smaller". One is less than three. 1<3.

(Goodnight, SeaBreeze.😊 )

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

EasyPrompt

I already answered your question in the above post, but if you want me to "reconcile" them again for you...

Christ was born of God, and he never sinned. 1 John 5:18. "We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin."

You, SeaBreeze, claim to be a NT believer, and yet you are misinterpreting Romans 9:5 because of not repenting over a basic math miscalculation. 1 John 1:8. "If we make the statement, “We have no sin,” we are misleading ourselves and the truth is not in us."

Thankfully math problems don't separate anyone from the Christ!

"Who will file accusation against God’s chosen ones? God is the One who declares them righteous. Who will condemn them? Christ Jesus is the one who died, yes, more than that, the one who was raised up, who is at the right hand of God and who also pleads for us. Who will separate us from the love of the Christ? Will tribulation or distress or persecution or hunger or nakedness or danger or sword? Just as it is written: “For your sake we are being put to death all day long; we have been accounted as sheep for slaughtering.” On the contrary, in all these things we are coming off completely victorious through the one who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

(Good night for now, SeaBreeze - I'm going to get some sleep. Maybe tomorrow we can do some more fun math problems.😊)

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Romans 9:5

by aqwsed12345 in

na28: ὧν οἱ πατέρες καὶ ἐξ ὧν ὁ χριστὸς τὸ κατὰ σάρκα, ὁ ὢν ἐπὶ πάντων θεὸς εὐλογητὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας, ἀμήν.. na28 transliterated: hō̃n hoi patéres kaì ex hō̃n ho khristòs tò katà sárka, ho ṑn epì pántōn theòs eulogētòs eis toùs aiō̃nas, amḗn.. kit: .

nwt: to them the forefathers belong, and from them the christ descended according to the flesh.

god, who is over all, be praised forever.

EasyPrompt

"Here's the problem that you have..."

Regarding problems, dear SeaBreeze, I am a homeschool teacher and I assign my kids a lot of math problems when we are on that subject of mathematics, so you could say that at times I have lots of "problems". But I don't have a problem with knowing Jesus is subject to Jehovah.

"Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God."

Do you like math problems? I enjoy math. God makes it so things fit. It's not complicated. 1+1+1=3. Math is cool.

Do you like math jokes? (I copied some of these from a math joke website called beano.com...)

"I had a big argument with my friend about fractions...Our opinions were divided!"

Here's another one...

"I hate arguments about fractions...They're so divisive!"

Or how about this one...

"I can't agree about fractions with some people...On this forum, it's really causing division!"

🤣

Sorry, I love silly math puns. Okay, back to the matter at hand...

"WT theology can't really account for that can it?"

Why do you keep bringing up WT theology? I already told you the WT people kicked me out because I don't equate WT theology with God's Word.

"Christian theology perfectly accomodates this however. I think you know how, you are just not ready to accept it yet."

That sounds like a quote from "Mission: Impossible"..."your mission, should you choose to accept it..."😆

I'm all for accepting the truth. Are you alluding to the Trinity doctrine here? So far, there is no math problem on earth where 1+1+1=1. It just doesn't add up. It's an impossible mission. I've already rejected the bad math of the WT theology when they claimed that 1914 was some kind of "Christian theology". I'm not going to be accepting anybody else's bad math any time soon just because they put a label on it "Christian theology". But you can believe it if you want. I'll still love you.🙂💖

"I'm curious how you would reconcile these two verses from the same writer:
1 John 1: 8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 5: 18 - We know that whoever is born of God does not sin
How can both of these verses be true?"

Here's an example: let's say that you, SeaBreeze, claim to be born again. If you are born again, then you will do your best to be led by the holy spirit and you will not purposely grieve that spirit by going out and planning to fornicate or worship idols or get drunk and drugged up or to try to purposely trick or trap another person in a spirit of competitiveness or pride. 1 John 5:18 says "We know that whoever is born of God does not sin" or another rendition says "does not practice sin." That you, SeaBreeze, are a sinner and that you make mistakes is apparent by what is written at 1 John 1:8 where it says "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Sometimes we all make mistakes, like in math problems. That's why we all have to eat humble pie sometimes. Thus, SeaBreeze, it is possible for both of those verses to be true.

But I think you already knew that both of those verses are true. Why were you asking me if you already knew?😁

(By the way, do you like pie?)