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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

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Armageddon is the situation of the nations against God.

The entire 3 1/2 years of tribulation the nations are against God, because it is at the beginning of that time period Jesus takes the throne in heaven and the kingdom begins. The entire 3 1/2 years of tribulation the Devil empowers the UN to be the dominant world power in opposition to Christ's rule. The 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation is the time spoken of in Psalms when Christ rules for a little while amongst his enemies. The dream image vision in Daniel shows the kingdom begins during that time the UN is dominant world power. The feet of that vision are the UN. The other visions in Daniel also show the UN is against the holy ones during that 3 1/2 year time.

Armageddon is the entire situation of the nations during the 3 1/2 years of tribulation. Then the time of the nations is cut short, so that the holy ones will be saved. That is the appointed times of the nations: the 3 1/2 years of great tribulation, aka Armageddon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

EasyPrompt

Revelation is in signs. The plagues/trumpets/bowls are not taking place in timeline order. They are visions that depict some of the same actions from different angles, just like Daniel's visions.

The Nebuchadnezzar's dream image in Daniel depicts the progression of world powers. The beast visions of Daniel chapter 7 and Daniel chapter 8 depict the same progression from a slightly different angle. Daniel chapters 11 and 12 depict it again from a slightly different angle.

Joseph interpreted Pharoah's two dreams. They meant the same thing. They were depicted from a slightly different angle.

The plagues in Revelation are on false religion. They are depicting the destruction of false religious institutions, just like the plagues in Egypt destroyed false religion. The plagues in Revelation are figurative of the destruction of false religious institutions.

The bowls of God's anger are figurative, also depicting God's judgment on the religious institutions and governments.

The trumpets are loud announcements of God's wrath on false religious institutions and then the governments.

They are depicting the same thing in different ways. They overlap in many ways, they are not necessarily presented in time order.

The 3 1/2 days of the two witnesses vision is another way to present the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation, similar to how in Daniel there was a weeks of years vision, except in Revelation the 3 1/2 days is a days of years, in other words, a short period of time. The Devil will be cast down for a short period of time, 3 1/2 years. The preaching done during difficult circumstances will be for the 1260 days, which is 3 1/2 years. Christians will be kept safe in the wilderness-like time of the 42 months, or 3 1/2 years, of the great tribulation when there will be no religious institutions to take "refuge" in. Jehovah and Jesus will be our refuge during that time.

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

EasyPrompt

Revelation says the "two witnesses" prophesy in sackcloth 1260 days.

In the vision eating the little scroll, John was told in vision to preach again.

During the 3 1/2 years, there will still be a preaching to be done, even though the religious institutions will have been destroyed.

The "3 1/2 days" in the two witnesses vision is representative of the 3 1/2 years, just like in Joseph's interpretation for Pharoah, the seven cows meant seven years, the seven stalks of wheat meant seven years. The context of Revelation and the prophecies in Daniel show the 3 1/2 days are 3 1/2 years.

After 3 1/2 years of preaching in difficult circumstances, the anointed still alive will be changed and the anointed who have died will be resurrected. All together they will join Jesus and protect all sheeplike people from extermination by the UN.

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

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vain

Matthew 15:9

"It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines."

Matthew 13:10-15

"So the disciples came and said to him: “Why do you speak to them by the use of illustrations?”

In reply he said: “To you it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the Kingdom of the heavens, but to them it is not granted. For whoever has, more will be given him, and he will be made to abound; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him. That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it.

And the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled in their case. It says: ‘You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.’"

When Jesus said "whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him" he meant that those who attempt to use "religion" as a means to lord it over others, either for financial or prominence purposes, will have that "means of gain" taken away. It will be taken away shortly when the great tribulation begins.

If you are a theologian with fancy letters next to your name or a title or you are seeking such prominence or financial gain from such a status, you would be wise to come down from there before Babylon falls.

"He who exalts himself will be humbled."

God is not partial. Even kids can understand truth. We are all brothers. There is no need to try to be some kind of "fancy superfine apostle". Jesus is far away from that type of person.

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by jwleaks in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVfovUzX4Dw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjXOzh2TVM

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

EasyPrompt

Hi Vidqun🙂

Genesis says: "An evening, a morning - one day."

1 Evening + 1 Morning = 1 Day

1 Evening = 1/2 Day

1 Morning = 1/2 Day

1/2 Day + 1/2 Day = 1 Day

2300 (Evenings and Mornings) = 1150 Evenings + 1150 Mornings = 1150 Days

In Daniel 8:14 the 2300 evenings and mornings are 1,150 days.

A lot of the visions of Revelation overlap and are actually depicting the same event from a slightly different angle.

Armageddon could refer to the entire situation during the great tribulation, but the actual final "battle" will be instantaneous, not drawn out.

The timeframe of the 3 1/2 years is repeated several times in the Daniel, Revelation, and the gospels in slightly different ways: "time times and half a time" or "3 1/2 times" or "42 months" or "appointed times of the nations" or "1260 days" etc.

Just like in Joseph's interpretation for Pharoah, the seven years with the wheat and cows were repeated to show it was sure to happen.

Just like in Daniel the repeated progression of world powers in several different dreams/visions showed it was sure to happen.

The 3 1/2 years of great tribulation when the UN rules as dominant world power and removes all religious institutions is sure to happen.

But also sure to happen is the resurrection of the anointed. Since they are all "killed" by the 1260th day, the resurrection/change for them takes place after that point, which is in harmony with Jesus' words in the gospels regarding the timeline of the great tribulation.

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

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aqwsed12345 said: "Use less line spacing, clown comments, and redundant, absolutely unnecessary funny pictures and videos."

😝

You're the one making the spacey clown comments.🤡

EasyPrompt said: "Begotten" means created.”
aqwsed12345 said: "Ah…. and should I just believe this on your mere statement? I don't even understand why the theologians argued so much about this, if it would have been enough to throw in 3 (!) words. What kind of intellectual pretentiousness is this?"

I don't know what kind of intellectual pretentiousness you have - you're the one who knows.

aqwsed12345 said: "Just answer the rhetorical question at Hebrews 1:5:"

If your question is rhetorical, why do you want me to answer it?

Father means procreator. The children of the Father are His creation.

When there was nobody else in existence besides God, God fathered Jesus. After that, Jesus helped God make everything else. The only person that God made while solo was Jesus.

That's why no other creation of God can be called "only-begotten".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuz5jpCVjQ

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

EasyPrompt

https://youtu.be/hpzEJPz0xsI

(video is less than one minute, displays scriptures in chart form explaining 3 1/2 years of great tribulation, the last chart shows scripturally that the resurrection of the anointed will not occur until after the 1260th day of the great tribulation)

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

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Blotty said: "This is going to be very brief..."

😆 I guess length of time is a matter of perspective. ☺️

aqwsed12345 said: "It's particularly amusing that one of the most important Watchtower doctrines which they are 'ad nauseam' parroting, namely "the Son is a creature", is NOWHERE explicitly stated in the Bible, although they amusingly claim that all their teachings are "clearly" in the Bible!"

"Father" according to Strong's is: "one who imparts life and is committed to it; a progenitor, bringing into being to pass on the potential for likeness...is used of our heavenly Father. He imparts life...refers to a begetter, originator, progenitor..."

Father = "begetter"

Matthew 6:9

"You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.""

2 Corinthians 1:3

"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ..."

1 Peter 1:3

"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ..."

Ephesians 1:15-17

"...that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him."

Romans 15:5,6

"Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Colossians 1:3

"We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you..."

God is the Father of Jesus. It's right in the Bible a bunch of times. The scriptures clearly describe Jesus as begotten of God. "Begotten" means created. Anything created has a start date and is subject to time.

God is not subject to anything or anyone. God is not subject to time, that is why he can tell the finale from the beginning.

2 Peter 1:19-21

"For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZ6bPACd50