Haha, I thought this was funny...
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i didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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Haha, I thought this was funny...
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just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
Most of the elders I knew didn't really go out in field service anyway. They did "creative" ministry. They'd do the field service group and then ride around with their wife and stay in the car during her studies. Or they'd drive some other people around to their studies and stay in the car. Or they'd drive to the car wash first, then the post office to pick up the Kingdom Hall mail, then swing by the hospital to check if any JWs were in there, then coffee break, then back to the Kingdom Hall, or something like that.
But I remember the COBE talking once about they wanted to promote a couple guys to be elders but the only thing holding them back was that another elder said they only had like one or two hours a month in the ministry. The COBE was trying to get the other elders to see that it didn't matter. Seems he was thinking the same as the GB. (A lot of them just do it - become an elder - for prominence/power. And then the ones that are sincere get poisoned pretty quickly once they get that elder position, because if they don't turn into hypocrites like the other elders, they get a lot of flack.)
The hour reporting was just another fraudulent scam of the guys at Bethel to mislead nice sincere religious people into working to support an antichrist clergy class commune. They didn't really care about shepherding people or comforting people. It was just pretend, a product. That's why they were so quick to stop the door-to-door during COVID but they kept building projects going where they could. Now they have people donating online regular monthly deductions from their bank account that go straight to Bethel, so they don't need the push for literature placements and the old way of donating with people feeling they need to put something in the box to cover the literature placed.
yesterday's annual meeting "report" was soooooooooooo invigorating!.
memories:.
km 1/97 p. 7 question box - why should we report our field service activity promptly each month?
They are JWBorg. My PIMI husband went to meeting today. Sounds like new reporting didn't even come up in conversation. (Kinda like..."What do you mean, we used to report field service time? And Anthony Morris who? Never heard of him.")
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
Before, they made money off selling literature. Dangling the title/prominence "carrot" in front of publishers increased the sales. "Sister So-and-So is auxiliary pioneering this month!" <clap, clap, clap>
They don't sell literature anymore. They sell real estate.
Now the push is to get strong young laborers to go "volunteer" building Ramapo/etc. New "carrot".
No need to monitor hours in the ministry because the money comes from a different source now.
Also, they are running out of elders to support their GB-pyramid-power-structure. Before, low-monthly-hour guys were not generally recommendable. Now that's gone, they can promote the low-hour guys to being elders.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
Yes, I hope they do too. It's time for these guys to get shut down.
(Some older news stories...)
https://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-lawsuit-1454001
https://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-lawsuit-1454001
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
"By Bill Hickman of RNZ
The New Zealand Branch of the Jehovah’s Witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the Abuse in Care inquiry today.
In the High Court at Wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in New Zealand.
Abuse survivor advocate and former church Elder Shayne Mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.
“The response from former Jehovah’s Witnesses is they’re basically saying ‘what a bunch of liars’. Because everyone who has been a part of that organisation knows that the Elders are encouraged to look after children, to do things with them.”
Mechen said the move was a “kick in the guts” for those who suffered abuse and those brave enough to relive their experience for the inquiry.
“They had high hopes, those hopes have been smashed,” he said.
The Jehovah's Witness church has been fighting scrutiny from a national inquiry.
“They’ve been re-traumatised and there’s no hope at all for them to get any justice from what the Jehovah’s Witnesses are doing.”
Mechen said the argument was based on the church’s lack of bricks and mortar facilities for young people.
He said, if upheld, the review could allow Jehovah’s Witnesses groups across the commonwealth to evade their culpability for past abuse.
Luke Hollis was an abuse survivor from a Jehovah’s Witnesses following in Britain.
He said he hoped the New Zealand courts would see through the church’s argument.
“It is a very common rhetoric: ‘We don’t have any nurseries, we don’t have specific schools for children who are Jehovah’s Witnesses, so how can we be accountable? We are not care givers’. But the actual reality is very, very different,” Hollis said.
The power structure of the church meant trusted Elders could control who young people spend time with, Hollis said.
As a child, he said he would be assigned to spend time in the sole supervision of his abuser well beyond the confines of any formal church structure.
“In their preaching work they go door-to-door, they go to different events and what not. For myself, every week my abuser would have the power to say ‘that person is going to come with me for two hours and knock on some doors’.
“So even though that isn’t in a physical setting that is an example of how perpetrators of abuse have access to children but not in an official setting such as a school or a nursery,” Hollis said.
The judicial review was scheduled take place over two days in Wellington High Court this week.
- RNZ"
the first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
(The video of the annual meeting that was on the avoidjw site has been taken down, but the link to the jwstream recording of the annual meeting is still working...it will probably expire later today.)
the first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
(The entire annual meeting video is available on here now too... https://avoidjw.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-announce-no-more-requirement-to-report-ministry-hours/ )
the first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
"Wonder how next year is going to top this!!!"
There won't be a WTBT$ Annual Meeting next year.
"No more field service report"
Still a field service report, just modified. Still reporting to men for the sake of praise from men and a measuring stick for obedience to the GB/FD$.
By removing the field service hour measuring, they hope that more men will be recommended as "elders" to support the GB-worship-pyramid-structure.🤑
"Was there any mention at the Annual Meeting about the increase in CSA cases the WT is currently battling?"
Nope. Not. One. Word. They don't care. They won't apologize. They are hypocrites and frauds. They are not faithful nor are they discreet. They are nasty, naughty wolves in sheep's clothing.
Rotten WTBT$. Rotten FD$. That tree's about to be cut down and thrown in the sea, in answer to the prayers of the faithful ones. Jesus will do it.
the first saturday in oct. is coming up soon.
that's when the org holds its annual meeting.
not that many years back, it used to be hyped beforehand with favored ones getting special invites.
Mark Sanderson releases new brochure, training for ministry, to be used in congregation meetings starting January in Midweek meeting. Less focus on topics for conversation, more on scripting how to show love.
Made available by November 6 for all congregations. Entire symposium also available online on November 6, so all hear at same time. "Isn't that great!"
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Mark says it's a new tool to help show love to people.
(🙄How about stop shunning people? How about stop splitting up families? How about protecting CSA victims instead of protecting unrepentant pedophiles? Yeah, right, WTBT$ "love" = looking for more slave labor and donors to support the Bethel commune system. They don't care about people or about Jehovah or about imitating Jesus.)
Mark says about Jehovah that "He has confidence in us." ("Us" meaning the WTBT$.)
(Oh, really, Mark? Jehovah is about to tear down the WTBT$. The FD$ is about to be removed. Jehovah is confident that you will no longer be misleading the sheep. Jehovah is confident that you will be removed. Frauds! WTBT$ liars, misrepresenting Jehovah, hurting His sheep and reproaching His name.)
Mark Sanderson concludes talk and says "Have no doubt that Jehovah will soon richly reward you as we all give generously of our time and our effort to love our amazing god Jehovah and to make disciples."
(Mark, have no doubt that Jehovah is going to soon reward the FD$ for all their reproach on Jehovah's name - their "reward" is the figurative fire where the WTBT$ will be dissolved and where the weeping and gnashing of their teeth will be.)
(After Mark's talk, chairman Kenneth Cook had a slight slip and called the monthly broadcast "the JW B Broadcast" 🤣🤣🤣 as in like JWBorg? Lol!!!)
Edward Bunn from the Central America Branch says the concluding prayer...
"...we are so content to be here, we feel so good about our meeting and the association...express our appreciation...all things will occur according to your will...your name sanctified...we want to see how...they will see how you've protected your interests and you've protected your people...we appreciate that you are the best example of loving us with all of your soul...we pray we can show you our love also...we pray for your blessing over all of the things that have been announced...we give you our thanks Jehovah..."
(The closing prayer was the best part of the meeting. He praised and thanked Jehovah instead of the GB/FD$/WTBT$. He also asked for Jehovah's blessing on those who could not attend. Jehovah will answer that prayer. Jehovah will sanctify His name and take care of all His sheep, despite how the WTBT$ has scattered and crushed so many of them and despite how the WTBT$ has reproached Jehovah's holy name.)