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List of main points from 2023 AGM
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.
the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.
they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.
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List of main points from 2023 AGM
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.
the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.
they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.
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This was a fun little comparison video...
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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https://www.thepress.co.nz/a/nz-news/350089389/jehovahs-witnesses-care-outside-scope-abuse-inquiry-court-told
"Jehovah's Witnesses 'care' outside scope of abuse inquiry, court told
Wellington higher courts reporter
October 11, 2023
Jehovah’s Witnesses say five claims made against elders are not within the scope of the abuse in care inquiry, but it can’t forestall what will happen about other claims it knows exist but remain confidential.
Survivors have not yet given permission for the extra claims to be disclosed to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, so a court challenge to the way the abuse in care Royal Commission of Inquiry is interpreting the scope of its work can only cover the claims disclosed so far.
Jehovah’s Witnesses were not asking to be “released” from the inquiry but did say nothing so far brought it within the terms of reference description of a faith-based institution assuming responsibility for the care of anyone.
The faith did not run schools, camps or assume responsibility for care in any other way, lawyer Sarah Jerebine told Justice Rebecca Ellis at the High Court in Wellington on Wednesday.
However, last month the scope of the inquiry was clarified “for the avoidance of doubt” to cover faiths assuming care for individuals in informal and pastoral care relationships. The judge was told her decision would also affect claims against other faiths.
Jehovah’s Witnesses said last month’s clarification was invalid but lawyers for the attorney-general have defended it.
The faith group did not challenge the evidence to the inquiry from a former Jehovah’s Witnesses elder who said people trusted him and left their children with him. Jerebine said that did not amount to the faith assuming responsibility for the care of anyone.
Jehovah’s Witnesses’ policy was that parents should not leave their children with elders. The five claims against elders were in a family setting or friend of the family context and none described abuse in care that came within the scope of the inquiry, she said.
It was fair for claimants to have a process to meet their situation but the abuse in care inquiry did not cover abuse in trust-based relationships, she said.
The inquiry is due to start a process at the end of the month seeking comment from any person or group facing adverse findings.
It had a deadline of March 28, 2024 to release its report and recommendations.
The inquiry was represented at the court hearing in Wellington this week but its lawyer Simon Mount, KC, said it was only present to assist the court and did not take an active part.
It took seriously its duties to be even-handed and fair, he said.
Justice Rebecca Ellis reserved her decision. Dozens of people were in the court’s public gallery for the hearing and she thanked them for their attention to the case, acknowledging that not all were “in the same boat”.
- The Post"
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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PID publication says "Jehovah's Witnesses do not provide or sponsor any activities that separate children from their parents...or any other activity where they assume responsibility for the care of children. Nor do they provide or sponsor any extracurricular activities...and similar activities for youths or adolescents. Therefore, Jehovah's Witnesses do not and never have assumed responsibility for the care of children, young people, or vulnerable adults..."
From the JWBorg 148th Gilead Graduation "The Inside Story"...
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/VODPgmEvtGilead/pub-jwb_202006_3_VIDEO
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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The PID media release said: "Jehovah's Witnesses...do not provide or sponsor...any extracurricular activities, such as choirs..."
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/MakingMusic/pub-jwb_201708_6_VIDEO
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/Reports/pub-jwbrd_201505_7_VIDEO
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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The JW PID liars are passing out this media statement in New Zealand right now...
PID: "JWs do not/never have assumed responsibility for the care of children, young people or vulnerable adults."
https://twitter.com/Ron_POMO/status/1711755991967306060
Elder book: "Shepherd flock of God IN YOUR CARE." Chapter 2 under "Group Overseer" says elder is regularly working with each individual in different aspects of the work, especially the weak.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/sites/default/files/WAT.0003.001.0001.pdf
These PID guys make me sick.🤢🤮Nasty liars.
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Hailstones (2)
by NotFormer inwith the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.
can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.
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They are so ridiculous. They can't make "hail". Moses didn't make hail. Elijah didn't make hail. Jesus didn't make hail. The prophets announced things that Jehovah would do and then they glorified Jehovah when He did them. The judgments were from God, not from the prophets. The GB/FD$/WTBT$ are so presumptuous, just like Pharaoh the so-called god of the sun. Ridiculous. The figurative plagues of Revelation will show all those fakers who want to be idolized are ridiculous frauds. Hail, indeed!
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Hailstones (2)
by NotFormer inwith the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.
can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.
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The WTBT$ "hailstones message" was always a make-believe twist of what the Bible says, just like the FD$ teaching.
The hail in Revelation is from Jehovah Himself, not from JWs.
Revelation 11:19
"And the temple sanctuary of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple sanctuary. And there were flashes of lightning and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail."
The "hail" is figurative of God's judgment first on religion and then on government.
Isaiah 28:17
"And I will make justice the measuring line
And righteousness the leveling tool.
The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies,
And the waters will flood out the hiding place."
The plagues of Revelation are all figurative of God's judgment against first religion and then government. It has nothing to do with some tract from WTBT$. WTBT$ is going to be one of the first institutions swept away by the hail.
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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True, because they don't need to just "believe" - they already "know".
(FYI, the faithful angels who have been alive from ancient times and Jesus are the ones who reside in heaven. They've never questioned their own existence or the truth of the Bible. They know they are alive and that the Bible is Jehovah God's Word. There is nothing any atheist can say to them or about them that will convince them otherwise.😁)
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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"why dont you bible thumpers start your own forum ?"
If Simon asks the "Bible thumpers" to leave, they will leave. (I didn't know you spoke for Simon, @stanlivedeath. Are you his appointed spokesman?) It seems to me that Simon is able to speak for himself.
"People are being gunned down, kidnapped and terrorised but hey, read these verses!!"
"religious nutjobs"
@nicolaou, many of the people living in the area where the attacks took place are religious. They would be reading the scriptures especially this time of year. They receive comfort from reading them. If they were here on this forum, one way you could comfort them or show you care for them would be to share such scriptures or at the very least to respect their religious persuasion.
https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/yom-kippur-a-reading-list/
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/palestine-christians-have-no-margin
@nicolaou, @stanlivedeath, there are no atheists in foxholes.