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  Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take for example revelation 21: 10. .

  “….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

  here john sees something happening, action.

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  "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen."

  
  

  Which generation?

  
  

  The one that sees "all these things".

  
  

  Which things?

  
  

  "Great tribulation."

  
  

  It's not complicated.

  
  

  The generation of Christians that sees the tribulation begin will survive the tribulation.

  
  

  Why was Jesus telling us this?

  
  

  Because the great tribulation is going to be so bad for Christians that we're not going to think any of us will survive it.

  
  

  It's the same thing for women in labor. When you're in it, you don't think you're going to survive it. But most women do survive it.

  
  

  "During that time Miʹcha·el will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of your people. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time." (Daniel 12:1)

  
  

  Daniel chapter 12 takes place in our day, not in the first century. It is in harmony with what is written in Matthew 24 about the fulfillment in our day:

  
  

  "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again..." (Matthew 24:21,22)

  
  

  When Satan is cast down from heaven, he will incite the UN to attack all religious institutions. It's going to look really, really bad for Christians. Jesus was telling us, when you see all these things going on, the appointed times of the nations to trample Christianity, don't freak out. It's going to be 3 1/2 years of it. Even though the religious institutions are going to be completely torn down, some individual Christians will survive and make it to the end of the 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation, the time when Christ will come on the clouds will great power and glory.

  
  

  "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen."

  
  

  Love for God and for each other will help us to endure.
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  Luke 23:43 the NWT

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

  nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

  now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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  @aqwsed12345...

  
  

  That website you linked quotes Ignatius. Ignatius was full of baloney, just like the GB/FDS.

  
  

  (Where do you think they got that "Faithful Discreet Slave" false doctrine from?)

  
  

  Here is a quote from the Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians, chapter 6:

  
  

  "Now the more any one sees the bishop keeping silence, the more he ought to revere him. For we ought to receive every one whom the Master of the house sends to be over His household, Matthew 24:45 as we would do Him that sent him. It is manifest, therefore, that we should look upon the bishop even as we would upon the Lord Himself."

  
  

  I will spare you the bunk from the rest of Ignatius, but you can read it for yourself. It doesn't take much to realize he was pulling the stuff out of his, um...

  
  

  Anyone who relies on Ignatius for scriptural understanding is not relying on holy spirit but is making stuff up in order to attempt to look "smart" and get glory from men, just like "Ignatius" made stuff up in order to lord it over the Lord's sheep. Jesus said to beware the leaven of the scribes and Pharisees. Ignatius is full of leaven. The GB/FDS is full of leaven. These people who want to make their own websites and get followers (and donations) for themselves are full of leaven.

  
  

  Jesus said regarding the truth: "You received free, give free." The websites you linked have a photo of a little girl holding out cash and a caption that says: "How to financially support us." The name of the "company" is "Witnesses for Jesus." If the website owner was a true witness for Jesus, then the website owner would not be quoting Ignatius, a teacher of false doctrine.
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  Luke 23:43 the NWT

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

  nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

  now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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  How do you know if the person talking to you about the Bible is qualified? How do you tell a "meterologist" from "a window washer"? What qualifies someone as "educated" in the scriptures? Since the scriptures were not written by men at a special school, why would a special school qualify one person more than another? Whether it's a Watchtower school or a seminary school or a secular school or no school that a person went to, what does that matter? Isn't it holy spirit that qualifies whether or not a person could understand and explain the scriptures, since the scriptures are inspired by God's holy spirit?

  
  

  "I tell you today that you will certainly perish." (Deuteronomy 30:18)

  
  

  Would you also say that this verse means the Israelites would perish the day they heard this sentence? Where would you put the "comma"?

  
  

  "I tell you today, that you will certainly perish."

  
  

  Check out the context.

  
  

  "But if your heart turns away and you do not listen and you are enticed and bow down to other gods and serve them, I tell you today that you will certainly perish. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess. I take the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you today that I have put life and death before you, the blessing and the curse; and you must choose life so that you may live, you and your descendants, by loving Jehovah your God, by listening to his voice, and by sticking to him, for he is your life and by him you will endure a long time in the land that Jehovah swore to give to your forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”

  Check out the theme of the Bible.

  
  

  Jehovah wants people to live on the land. Jehovah swore to give the land to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There is no "land" in heaven. For God to fulfill His promise, He will resurrect Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob here to the earth. They will live in Paradise. So will the man who died next to Jesus.

  
  

  "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise."

  
  

  (Holy spirit makes it clear where to put the comma. The WT people got the comma right in this case...they just don't realize Jesus will hang out on earth too.)
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  Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some areas that i have found:.

  not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

  the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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  🥰
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  Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take for example revelation 21: 10. .

  “….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

  here john sees something happening, action.

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  @Jehalapeno

  
  

  I believe that if there is a hurricane outside, it's probably not a good day to go sailing. I'd be worried to go sailing on a day there was a hurricane coming through, because I believe hurricanes are more powerful than I am.

  
  

  You might not believe in hurricanes, so maybe you would go sailing in one. "What, me worry?"

  
  

  "In reply he said to them: “When evening falls, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is fire-red,’ and in the morning, ‘It will be wintry, rainy weather today, for the sky is fire-red but gloomy.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but the signs of the times you cannot interpret.""

  
  

  Some people don't worry about what God thinks. You can do what you want. Plant corn or plant peas. Or jalapeños.

  
  

  "Whatever a person is sowing, this he will also reap."

  
  

  Jehovah is not an unfeeling impartial hurricane. Jehovah is the God of Love. I believe in love, and when I tell you that I "worry" about pleasing the One I love, it's not a morbid fear of displeasing Him, but rather a heartfelt desire to do what is His delight, since He deserves to be worshipped whole-heartedly and trusted.

  
  

  @Fisherman

  
  

  Jesus didn't receive kingdom power in 1914. "No man knows the day or the hour". If it could have been calculated from that twisting of Daniel chapter 4, then Jesus would have been able to figure it out, and he wouldn't have said "not even the Son knows the day and the hour, only the Father."

  
  

  The Bible does say that the great tribulation is the appointed times of the nations, and the Bible does say the appointed times of the nations is 3 1/2 years (a time, times an half a time.) When Jesus does receive the Kingdom in heaven, then the UN will trample religion for 3 1/2 years.

  
  

  At the end of that 3 1/2 year time, everyone will see Jesus coming on the clouds.
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  Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take for example revelation 21: 10. .

  “….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

  here john sees something happening, action.

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  I've heard of the peanut gallery, but I've never heard of the jalapeño gallery...

  
  

  What does a nosy pepper do?

  
  

  Gets jalapeño business!

  
  

  🤪🤣

  
  

  If you don't believe in Christ, Jehalapeno, then I guess you feel you've got nothing to worry about. Although, personally, I suggest you "put on the Christ" because the world's about to get even colder, and you're just a little chili...

  
  

  😆😁
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  Where Does Watchtower Doctrine Contradict Scripture?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some areas that i have found:.

  not only is watchtower eschatology offbase, which is not critical, but so is watchtower soteriology … which is critical.

  the bible says not to put trust in men who cannot save.

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  For example, could you proskyneo Michael with this hymn?
  

  Yes! That was lovely!🥰

  (It looks like the video isn't showing up now, but it was Tommy Walker, "My Jesus, I Love Thee")
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  Luke 23:43 the NWT

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

  nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

  now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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  I am what I am by means of God's undeserved kindness. I have faith in the power of Christ's blood, and I believe what he teaches by means of the scriptures and the holy spirit.

  
  

  I have no interest in talking to you further right now, Sea Breeze. If you insist on misspelling "anointed" despite being on the board at a "Christian" educational facility, you certainly won't be able to comprehend anything else I could possibly share with you that Christ has shared with me. I have no interest in hearing any more of the corrupted doctrines of man that you seem to want to shove in my general direction. I prefer the clear waters of truth provided by my Lord the Christ.

  
  

  Cheery bye-bye.
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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  Jesus said there would be religious people who would show hatred and who thought they were doing it "for God". There are individuals within many different groups who show such religious hatred.

  
  

  We have a choice to either be part of the solution or part of the problem.

  
  

  Jesus recommended the following: "Love your enemies" and "if your enemy is thirsty, give him something to drink" etc...

  
  

  It is entirely proper to point out hypocrisy and false religious teachings, and to report abuse to the authorities and media that others may not fall into the same traps, but there is also a danger in going too far and becoming "a religious hater" inciting hatred for individuals in the very group we are exposing.

  
  

  "Pay attention to yourselves. If your brother commits a sin, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him."

  
  

  In general, people in different religious groups, including the borg, have not yet repented of their false doctrines. They may repent in the future when Jesus makes very clear which doctrines are false. We need to be ready to embrace the religious people who wake up, regardless of what religious group they belong to (or don't belong to) at present.
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  Luke 23:43 the NWT

  by Ade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

  nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

  now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

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  I very clearly have stated my faith that Jesus was raised from the dead.

  
  

  The verse you keep quoting wasn't written in English. It was written in a first century language. The English word "body" and the meaning you keep attaching to it wasn't in the original manuscript.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Your interpretation doesn't fit the leading of the holy spirit or the healthful teaching.

  
  

  "Keep holding to the standard of wholesome words that you heard from me with the faith and love that result from union with Christ Jesus." (2 Timothy 1:13)

  
  

  "I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him." (1 John 2:26,27)

  
  

  I don't know where you got that "dead isn't really dead" way of thinking from, @SeaBreeze, but I suggest you follow the Christ and the direction of the holy spirit rather than the teachings of corrupted men.

  
  

  "If any man teaches another doctrine and does not agree with the wholesome instruction, which is from our Lord Jesus Christ, nor with the teaching that is in harmony with godly devotion, he is puffed up with pride and does not understand anything. He is obsessed with arguments and debates about words. These things give rise to envy, strife, slander, wicked suspicions, constant disputes about minor matters by men who are corrupted in mind and deprived of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain." (1 Timothy 6:3-5)