They are so ridiculous. They can't make "hail". Moses didn't make hail. Elijah didn't make hail. Jesus didn't make hail. The prophets announced things that Jehovah would do and then they glorified Jehovah when He did them. The judgments were from God, not from the prophets. The GB/FD$/WTBT$ are so presumptuous, just like Pharaoh the so-called god of the sun. Ridiculous. The figurative plagues of Revelation will show all those fakers who want to be idolized are ridiculous frauds. Hail, indeed!
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Hailstones (2)
by NotFormer inwith the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.
can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.
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Hailstones (2)
by NotFormer inwith the change to reporting field service and now allowing people to repent during the gt, presumably up until armageddon, i'm assuming that the "hailstones" message is now permanently on hold.
can someone explain this to me; am i understanding this right?.
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The WTBT$ "hailstones message" was always a make-believe twist of what the Bible says, just like the FD$ teaching.
The hail in Revelation is from Jehovah Himself, not from JWs.
Revelation 11:19
"And the temple sanctuary of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple sanctuary. And there were flashes of lightning and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail."
The "hail" is figurative of God's judgment first on religion and then on government.
Isaiah 28:17
"And I will make justice the measuring line
And righteousness the leveling tool.
The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies,
And the waters will flood out the hiding place."
The plagues of Revelation are all figurative of God's judgment against first religion and then government. It has nothing to do with some tract from WTBT$. WTBT$ is going to be one of the first institutions swept away by the hail.
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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True, because they don't need to just "believe" - they already "know".
(FYI, the faithful angels who have been alive from ancient times and Jesus are the ones who reside in heaven. They've never questioned their own existence or the truth of the Bible. They know they are alive and that the Bible is Jehovah God's Word. There is nothing any atheist can say to them or about them that will convince them otherwise.😁)
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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"why dont you bible thumpers start your own forum ?"
If Simon asks the "Bible thumpers" to leave, they will leave. (I didn't know you spoke for Simon, @stanlivedeath. Are you his appointed spokesman?) It seems to me that Simon is able to speak for himself.
"People are being gunned down, kidnapped and terrorised but hey, read these verses!!"
"religious nutjobs"
@nicolaou, many of the people living in the area where the attacks took place are religious. They would be reading the scriptures especially this time of year. They receive comfort from reading them. If they were here on this forum, one way you could comfort them or show you care for them would be to share such scriptures or at the very least to respect their religious persuasion.
https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/yom-kippur-a-reading-list/
https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/palestine-christians-have-no-margin
@nicolaou, @stanlivedeath, there are no atheists in foxholes.
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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"New Zealands TV3 newshub this evening had this on their news, so it has now had mainstream media coverage."
Video clip of news story here...
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2023/10/jehovah-s-witnesses-fighting-in-court-for-church-to-be-exempt-in-abuse-in-care-inquiry.html
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Can JW's trust what the "slave" says?
by BoogerMan inhere is what the self-appointed "faithful slave said in the watchtower july 1 1943:.
"and for company publishers he [jesus] says, ’let us make a quota of 60 hours and 12 back-calls and at least one study a week for each publisher.’ these directions come to us from the lord through his established agency directing what is required of us; and, for those who really love the lord and are guided by his counsel, that is a reasonable service requirement.
this expression of the lord’s will should be the end of all controversy.
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"Can JW's trust what the "slave" says?"
No, JWs cannot trust what the self-appointed FD$ says because the self-appointed FD$ makes stuff up. They take a few Bible scriptures and apply them the right way as a hook and then take a few Bible scriptures and apply them the wrong way for selfish gain and shake it all up into a twisted mess to confuse the innocent.
They are hypocritical frauds.
Matthew 13:14
"Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
The FD$ do not know Jehovah at all. He will expose their fake "wisdom" and all their naughty deeds that they are trying to conceal.
Isaiah 29:13-16
"Jehovah says: “This people approach me with their mouth
And they honor me with their lips,
But their heart is far removed from me;
And their fear of me is based on commands of men that they have been taught.
Therefore, I am the One who will again do wonderful things with this people,
With wonder upon wonder;
And the wisdom of their wise men will perish,
And the understanding of their discreet men will be hidden.”
Woe to those who go to great lengths to conceal their plans from Jehovah.
Their deeds are done in a dark place,
While they say: “Who sees us?
Who knows about us?”
How you twist things!"
(This would be a more fitting outfit choice for that fake FD$...)
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New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story
by EasyPrompt inhttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
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https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/jehovah-s-witnesses-elders-have-authority-over-children-court-told/ar-AA1hXuRQ
Jehovah's Witnesses Elders 'have authority over children', court told
Story by Bill Hickman •
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Lawyers representing the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse in Care have argued that Elders of the Jehovah's Witnesses Church exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.
A hearing brought by the church to exempt itself from the inquiry is entering its second day in Wellington High Court today.
The church has argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope on grounds that it did not operate institutions of care and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.
Counsel for the attorney general said the hearing was an attempt to have the church's involvement "frozen in time" ahead of the inquiry's findings.
They said releasing the church would contradict the inquiry's undertaking to map the "nature and extent" of abuse in care in
Counsel for the Inquiry argued today that statements made to the Royal Commission contained evidence of abuse perpetrated by the status and authority conferred to Elders of the church.
During yesterday's proceedings, Judge Rebecca Ellis was critical of the overly complicated outlaying of the church's case. Today she quipped she had already worn out her highlighter pen during the church's submissions.
She said the 17 points put forward by the church on the first day of submissions could have been distilled into four essential points.
On the second day of proceedings, counsel addressed those points grouped into four core arguments.
They were the interpretation of the terms of 'care' in the inquiry, an asserted lack of evidence concerning abuse within that context, bias in the inquiry's focus and a challenge to the legality of an amendment made to include 'other faith-based institutions' within the scope of the inquiry.
Lawyers for the attorney general pointed out the church had received only two notices to produce documents from the inquiry, one of which had been withdrawn.
This meant the church had been subject to the least number of requests to provide information that any other faith-based institution cooperating with the inquiry.
The Jehovah's Witnesses were the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge their involvement in the inquiry.
Counsel for the attorney general said if the court upheld the church's arguments concerning a lack of evidence future inquiries would be left open to challenges being brought against their work as they proceeded.
Former Jehovah's Witness and website SaySorry.org co-founder Lara Kaput had travelled from Australia to attend the hearings.
She said the lengths the church was going to counter the inquiry's efforts made her ask what they had to hide.
"If you didn't have any child abuse, why wouldn't you want the world to know, and be a part of the Royal Commission?"
She said in her experience of the church any argument that families were enabled to counter the will of Elders was false.
"All of the Elders have authority over the children. You can never stand up to the leaders and expect to be allowed to remain in 'good standing' as they say.
"They will shun you and exclude you from the congregation which includes your family. So it's extremely dangerous for anyone to stand up against them for their own mental health."
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'They knew and let it happen!' What's your propaganda meter showing?
by was a new boy inremember the spotlight movie?.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ae250e9e-8f1a-45bb-b757-47c0149cafb3.
as a kid mum told me usa was warned about the coming pearl harbor attack.. 9/11 and covid-19, history repeating.
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When we see the GB give the annual meeting reports, we know they are a bunch of liars. They say one thing, that their motive is love, but the motive for what they do is not love, it is money and power.
The JWs get swept along for the ride. Many of them are just religious people who are suckered by the GB.
The news reports where the world leaders tell their stories is no different. What is presented in the news as their reason to act isn't the real motivation for their actions. The motives for their actions are money and power.
Many of the Palestinians and the Israelis and the people of all the other nations are just as whipped up and suckered and misled by their world leaders as the JWs are misled by the GB.
It's a mess. It's going to be a mess. People aren't meant to rule each other. Adam and Eve didn't want God to rule, so this is what we've got. A mess. The UN and the associated nations are going to have a chance to do their thing without religion around and try to rule and fail. It's going to be a mess. It's going to get worse before it gets better, but Jesus can undo death and he can undo a storm - he'll fix it when it's the appointed time.
In the meantime, he gives us strength to cope and endure. Jehovah is our refuge. After religion is torn down, it's going to be three and a half years with these governments at each others throats. It's called "great tribulation" for a reason, but Jehovah took care of His people all those years in the wilderness when they came out of Egypt after the plagues on false religion back then, and He'll be with us now. Religious institutions will be "plagued" and dissolved first, then the governments will be "plagued" and dissolved three and a half years later. Don't be afraid. Jesus won't leave us. We just have to keep listening to him. He's right here.
Matthew 18:20
"For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst."
He said he was the head of his congregation, like a man with a wife who he loves and cherishes. He is loyal. He won't leave us. He'll get us through, one day at a time, just like he always has. (We only have to get through one day at a time.)💖
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2023-Annual Meeting!
by Atlantis in2023-annual meeting.. .
https://stream.jw.org/home .
atlantis!.
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How to Legally Dissolve a Religious Organization
by EasyPrompt inregarding the state dissolving a church organization.... .
as posted in another thread, here is what is happening in japan, filing a court order to dissolve the unification church.... .
https://www.eurasiareview.com/06092023-japan-seeks-court-order-to-dissolve-unification-church/.
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Violation of public interest for harming members of the community, fraudulent misrepresentation as regards use of donated funds (like AM3 house and CSA legal shenanigans to protect abusers), violation and forfeiture of charter (changing "new light" instead of supposedly founded on "disseminating Bible truths" show that the first so-called "Bible truths" sold in the WTBT$ books like pyramid teaching were actually not truths after all)...WTBT$ has checked many of the boxes permitting the attorney general to judicially dissolve the WTBT$ corporations.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5165274479722496/wtbt-breach-charter
"New York Consolidated Laws, Not-For-Profit Corporation Law - NPC § 1101. Attorney-general's action for judicial dissolution
(a) The attorney-general may bring an action for the dissolution of a corporation upon one or more of the following grounds:
(1) That the corporation procured its formation through fraudulent misrepresentation or concealment of a material fact.
(2) That the corporation has exceeded the authority conferred upon it by law, or has violated any provision of law whereby it has forfeited its charter, or carried on, conducted or transacted its business in a persistently fraudulent or illegal manner, or by the abuse of its powers contrary to public policy of the state has become liable to be dissolved."
https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/notforprofit-corporation-law/npc-sect-1101.html
"A court can order the dissolution of a corporation when, to use the story your friend discussed with you, the attorney general of the state files a petition seeking to dissolve it. There are different grounds upon which an attorney general can seek to dissolve a corporation.
These bases all arise out of the state statutes that govern corporations. For instance, a corporation cannot be created via filing fraudulent documents. Although it might take a lot of time to figure out that fraud was involved, it does not prevent an attorney general from seeking to dissolve the corporation on these grounds. Another example of when an attorney general can seek to dissolve a corporation is when it violates laws that affect the corporation, such as when there exists some abuse of its authority under the state statutes that affect it."
"Can You Stop an Involuntary Dissolution?
The only way to stop the involuntary dissolution of a company is to fix the problems that led to it in the first place. The two reasons it happens is by order of the Secretary of State due to improper maintenance, known as “quo warranto,” and by court order due to fraud or insolvency."
"The Skinny on Arbitrability of Judicial Dissolution Claims
Are claims for judicial dissolution of business entities arbitrable?
It’s a question I’m occasionally asked by business owners and, surprisingly, by lawyers. I say surprisingly because here in New York, the courts long ago settled the question in favor of arbitrability. But there are some nuances when it comes to judicial dissolution and arbitration, and the arbitrability of dissolution claims is not a given in all states.
What follows is a very basic explanation of the rules and some issues surrounding arbitration of judicial dissolution claims. Bear in mind, however, that the governing rules, whether statutory or judge-made, can vary significantly from state to state, so whether you’re a business owner or a lawyer representing one, be sure to consult the rules in your jurisdiction.
How Do Business Entities Get Dissolved?
It may not be obvious why I pose this question first. Let me explain.
Corporations, limited liability companies, and limited partnerships — I’m purposely omitting general partnerships — are state-enabled creatures that draw their first breath only upon meeting statutory filing requirements with the Secretary of State. They likewise draw their last breath upon filing the statutorily specified documentation requiring the Secretary of State to dissolve the entity.
Business entity dissolution is governed by statute and comes in two flavors: voluntary (i.e., non-judicial) and involuntary (i.e., judicial). In the case of voluntary dissolution, the statutorily required filing consists of an authorized certificate of dissolution. Involuntary dissolution requires the filing of a court order directing the Secretary of State to dissolve the entity."
Here is the contact information for the New York Attorney General...
https://ag.ny.gov/contact-attorney-general-letitia-james
(The Attorney General can dissolve a non-profit corporation that is harming public welfare or going beyond the authority vested by the state or in breach of charter or fraudulently using donated funds in a way not transparent to the donors.)