Posts by FreeAgent

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New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

by FreeAgent in

hey folks, .

it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

FreeAgent

Hey all,

Returning to this topic, did anyone ever provide a copy of the mystery letter read to the JW medical community last year? If not, it looks like we may have a crack in the case from an unexpected source, a leading JW apologist. See below for an excerpt from Rolf Furuli's new ebook. Included in his critique of the GB's general abuse of authority, he uses this recent blood policy action as an example, and refers to a letter of 15 June 2018. The section includes a partial transcript, ostensibly from that letter. Sorry about quality....

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Which songs give you goosebumps?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i don't know if this topic has been covered before - it might 've been.. i also recommend flipper's excellent music thread ('what songs have you been listening to?

', or similar).. but, i'd just like to start a thread about certain songs giving me goosebumps.

y'know, when you hear a song that profoundly effects you in some difficult-to-describe way and the hairs on your arm stand on end even though the room temperature's comfortably warm.. so, which songs give you goosebumps?.

FreeAgent

This one has been doing it for me lately.

https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4

".....And the people bowed and prayed for the Neon God they made...."

Always loved that line. Never realized it was talking about me.

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Do you have a favorite picture?

by Iamallcool in

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it can be beautiful landscape, etc... share it with us!

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FreeAgent

“Daybreak” by the great Art Deco master Maxfield Parrish.

Always fantasizing about bygone days of pre-industrial innocence. Love that guy.

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Unique JW Phrases 101

by Solzhenitsyn in

what unique to jws phrases do you remember?

something fun for those of us taught to speak an entirely unique and pure language.

there have been posts in the past in this forum but perhaps some have new ones after having kept up with jehovah's chariot as the light gets brighter.

FreeAgent

“Bible-trained” Conscience = the complete absence of an actual one

“Encourage” = Coerce, manipulate, intimidate

“Pure Language” = Secret handshake

“Scriptural support” = Source code (hack able)

Theocratic Responsibilities = Behavioral triggers to drive the HiveMind

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New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

by FreeAgent in

hey folks, .

it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

FreeAgent

Thanks Atlantis, mucho appreciado.

And thanks for the local feedback doinmypart. That makes seven separate regional confirmations by my count so far, including the Reddit thread forwarded by Atlantis.

Still reserving judgement till an actual letter is produced, but I'm getting convinced this is an actual official initiative and we need to take it seriously. The question is why would the Org use this type of dissemination method when they are so "in your face" on everything else? Why is everything private or semi-private (no pun intended) verbal communication issued regionally with no written record available?

The most obvious would the desire to avoid legal liability and transfer it to any individuals foolish enough to follow orders. Reports vary slightly because they're allowing local HLCs to handle this in the most discrete (devious) way possible so as to not raise attention, and so they don't need to do a public flip-flop of official policy. The lawyers are running the show. Modus Operandi....

We need that letter folks.

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New Blood policy for JW medical professionals?

by FreeAgent in

hey folks, .

it’s been a long time since i’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever.

this just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:.

FreeAgent

Hey folks,

It’s been a long time since I’ve posted, good to see the forum well attended & spicy as ever. This just in from a close & trusted source, names & local places redacted for obvious reasons:

“Shit’s happening. It’s been on our radar since January but [----] just got confirmation today that JWs are quietly rolling out a policy change intensifying their stance on blood transfusions. They’ve been having private special meetings in different cities across the country. The liaison committees in each of the cities gathered all the JW healthcare professionals in their areas and read a letter stating that they can no longer administer, order, or even recommend a blood transfusion in any form, even if it means termination from their job. We got confirmation of meetings happening in Atlanta, Chicago, and Florida. Plus one person in [a nearby area] said a brother from the liaison committee….called [----] on the phone and informed [----] of the change. So this is real and it’s just a matter of time until the letter gets read in [your area], [-----] makes a stance, and gets disfellowshipped.”

Has anyone else heard about this? I don’t want to shoot off a flare over an unverified rumor, but these stories have come in recently from several unrelated & unsolicited sources. Trying to obtain a copy of any official documentation confirming this policy, if any. If true, it appears this info is being dispersed directly through the Hospital Liaison Committees in each region, and as usual letters are read but not distributed. If any of you are close to anyone on your local HLC, this would be excellent time for a clandestine book bag inventory near a convenient scanner .

I find it a little suspicious that there are not widespread reports indicating an organization-wide initiative. These kind of things usually get orchestrated in lock-step. The person who reported this to me feels the Org may be putting out feelers to the JW healthcare community to gauge response prior to issuing an official change in policy. Or, more sinister and true-to-form, they may be laying the groundwork for saying later that “we’ve always had this policy” to force submission via gas lighting in the future. This has always been understood to be a personal "conscience matter" to my knowledge.

If this is verified, it looks like they’ve finally targeted the last well-educated and reasonably prosperous demographic block they have left, the medical professions. Not sure how many of this group would simply fold and refuse to treat patients in dire need though, especially at the risk of a well-paying & stable job. Oh...and abandoning the Hippocratic oath in the process.

I definitely figured the Org would go in the opposite direction on the blood issue over time. Looks like I may have underestimated the Cool Aid mixture again….

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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

by Wasanelder Once in

roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

in one sentence tell why you left the org.

not 2 sentences.

FreeAgent

Was never any good at pretending, so I stopped.

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Sergei isnt allowed to play violin, but Lindsey is!

by stuckinarut2 in

so we all know that the gb have condemned the development of musical talents as shown in the latest movie of young sergei.. yet musical talents are a "gift from god" right??.

the gift of music could help inspire, uplift and "praise" him.

oh but , it could also distract a person and make them mix with "worldly" people... ah ha.... compare that to the mormons (lds).. they encourage musical skills!.

FreeAgent

Sergei did not need to have his dreams crushed or come to a “Sophie’s Choice” moment.

This video is just another deplorable & embarrassingly transparent control tactic on the part of the GB. Can’t allow even a little breathing room for the rarest of human gifts. They’re talking out of both sides of their mouth, hedging their bets so they can throw out a “told you so” when someone succumbs their creative side & dares to have any personal ambition to threaten their vice grip.

The ranks of the witnesses have included an impressive array of musical & artistic talent through the years despite concerted efforts by the GB to subvert any (particularly artistic) individuality. Of course, the Org was happy to exploit this talent when it suited their needs. The JW orchestra which recorded the original Kingdom Melodies series in Brooklyn the 1980s was jam-packed with top chair players from a number of major symphonies & philharmonics before they were disbanded to save $$. Among their leaders was Harold Blanchard, a top-notch Julliard trained pianist & composer. Blanchard was a monster player, globally respected & influential. Check out his “New Earth Sonata”, recorded with a group including Chic Corea & Hubert Laws, produced by Quincy Jones no less:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM6EHufrZgo

If they had their way the Org would deny something that beautiful to the world. Blanchard & other gifted artists didn’t let some cynical & control-drunk old men stifle their spirits, though no doubt the trajectory of their dreams was severely altered in the process.

Keep chasing your passions, kids. As Red said, “Some birds aren’t meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright.”

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JWR usernames list

by StarryNight9 in

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i created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.

i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.

jwd = starrynight9.

FreeAgent

FreeAgent here & there.

Same ApostaPup avatar.

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

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message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

FreeAgent

Hi everyone, FreeAgent here, another ex-JWR addict.

Just want to throw out a few thoughts on behalf of the lurkers & non-participants out there. Most from the JWR community won't know my name though I'd been a member since early 2013. I haven't posted at all since an early 3-month flurry so haven't lost the thousands of posts some others have, but that doesn't mean I haven't been listening & benefiting from the experience.

I had originally joined, having been a successful 20 year self-administered fader, because I felt I could offer something to help any others on their path out of the JW quicksand, maybe throw out some sage advice at a key moment of need to offer hope & support. I'd never been much of an online forum guy, but liked JWR a lot, as it seemed the "kinder, gentler" alternative to other angrier sites at the time, focused on support & healing rather than dishing out vitriol for its own sake. I was past that phase, but still felt the pull as most of my family including grown kids were still in, & there's no real escape in that situation. So, needing an outlet & a desire to contribute, JWR suited me just fine.

Funny thing is, as I started to participate, I soon realized I was not as "over that" as I had thought. I started to be the angry one in the posts. Old resentments & wounds, issues I thought I had put to bed years ago, morphed into bitter, preachy rants. When certain subjects were offered up by well-meaning posters, the old fangs would come out & I just started to sound like an ugly old curmudgeon, the exact opposite of my original intent. So I stopped....

I realized that I was the one that needed support, and JWR gave that to me whether the admins knew it or not. I stopped "helping" & just listened. And learned. And grew. And changed. It's never too late to do those things. I'm 57 as of this writing, and only just now do I feel somewhat released from much of the pent-up anger & resentment I had been holding on to. Just by lurking & listening. Regularly.

Thanks to all the truly kind & mature folks at JWR who offered their love & time when a newly damaged refugee would 1st post, asking for help. Thanks Helen T, Lonepine, Shimmy, Fantome & all the rest. You showed me how it's done.

Thanks for the depth & quality of your thoughts and the willingness & courage to share. Many a time I’ve been blown away by an idea or new piece of research I’d never considered from Bears, Borgia, Palimpsest, TallullahB, Tree, Zebedee, the list goes on…..sometimes from those of tender age (talking to you Jane M)….

Thanks to those who somehow have the stomach to keep ties to the Org so we can receive inside info, often before the elders even know, and be prepared for the after-effects. Special thanks to DS on this count, but Tony Brock, 1Gen2Groups and many others have my eternal admiration for actually doing this from inside the belly of the beast.

Thanks for all the laughs Fugue, Queequeg, Gargamel & the rest of you comedians. I need help keeping it light sometimes.

Thanks especially to all the JWR admins & mods, including (maybe especially) Rifter & Moxie for the truly high quality work while it lasted. It must have been a real chore to keep the experience balanced & mostly civil. You'll probably never get the recognition you deserve for what have must been thousands of hours of personal time & toil, but big kudos here from a humble lurker. Despite your challenges there was always a comfortable, friendly feeling about that site, and most members got the message early that the real goal was helping people get whole, get healed & ultimately move on, just like some of you seem ready to do now.

I’ll miss JWR. A lot. It felt like family even though I was like that distant uncle who lives in the woods & never writes, but I’ll take this transition in the “When one chapter ends another one begins” spirit. Looking forward to settling in a new community here, and will give active participation another shot. Really appreciate the open-armed welcome Simon & giving us a place to land. Looks like many have already made the same jump.

Till I’m ready to be an Ex-Ex myself…..

FreeAgent