the round of "international" conventions that started in the middle of last year in the states "wrapped" up last weekend in new zealand.
there was some media converage (from which i derived the information that follows).
(someone who knows how to copy links may be able to provide the relevant media links?).
Baptismal talks are given when there are no candidates, to make the baptised audience medidate on their own baptism. The questions are not asked if no-one gets up.
As for age, I have a couple of acquaintances that were baptised at the age of 8 - and that was back in the 1940s, so low age should not be emphasised too much as a sign of an organisational crisis.
sorry to post this but for some reason after a year of not talking i got drunk this morning(yeah i know no lecture) and called my mom and blew up.
i tolded her she was a false prophet and a horriable christian mother who never even came to her grandson's birth by my wife.
my words came out like a river of rage from which i never knew.
Stupid, stupid you.
And what good did you think you might accomplish with that?
at the last elders school i heard from a few different attendees that the average age was easily 60+.
there will be a lot of elders gone within the next 10yrs.
there is nowhere near enough young brothers to replace these ageing elders.
"The latest worldwide service report (for 2012) shows that there was roughly 300,000 fewer in attendance at the memorial worldwide than there were in 2011 "
I wouldn't pay too much attention to that (unless it keeps on dropping .........), the number has always been fluctuating according to what day the Memorial was celebrated. If during the Easter holidays, more people will be on vacation / trips, but if at the very beginning of the Easter week, more people will be at home and attend. 2012, April 5th was a holiday in large parts of the world. 2011, April 17th was BEFORE the Easter week. You would therefore expect a number of half siblings not attending. This year, March 26th will be in the Easter week but before the holidays for large parts of the world. More comparable to 2011.
here comments made me laugh.
" if you are not interested just say so".
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/lonely_believer_jlww5fd1bwokhvuq7u2e9i.
How true, princecharmant. JWs just HAVE to be the ignorant window-cleaners they all are supposed to be; and if someone turns out to be somewhat different, like having a good education, like being a model, like standing a tiny bit out in the (great) crowd - then a hundrer voices here instantly KNOW that that person is not a REAL JW, is a hypocrit, is a fake, is only allowed to stay because he/she secretly donates a lot of $ to the GB members etc.
So she is a model. So what? Her choice, her responsability. Not one I would have made, but who am I to blame her? Working for the government as I am, I am sure there is a crowd out there saying I am a fake too. So what? I live with my choices, I am responsible for my life, I stand for who I am, and if critical voices are heard I think to myself they are only voices of people having forgotten that they are not my judges.
Coco Rocha sound very much like cucaracha by the way ....................
so i have another visit from the elder this week.
this time they want to speak with my wife, still a believer and myself.
i think they want to know my position about my children attending the meetings and some other things.. while preparing myself for it i though of a challenge for the elders and my wife.
There is no use asking "difficult" questions about the new understanding to the elders coming to you, they don't know anything more about it than what was published at jw.org. In due time, articles will be published in the wt, and then they will have more to say - based on those articles. As will you. I mean - they are not "know-it-all's", they are not knowing more than other people able to read. All they can say is "we'll have to wait for the wt to give us details".
does anyone know where i can obtain an electronic copy of the nwt-large print?
please shoot a link my way via pm if possible.
thanks for any help..
The Bible - pdf
if some of you read the french version of the watch tawor (la tour de garde), i noticed recently, they have stopped using the formal "vous", for the more common "tu".
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for non french speakers, both words mean "you".. but the word "vous" (second person plurial) is used out of respect when adressing strangers, and it is the pronoun usually used when adressing the public in a magazine, news paper, public adresses, etc.. i new the mighty wtb&ts was dumbing it down, but now they talk to them like they were children.
That is just reflecting what is common in the various countries. In the Northern parts of Europe, the 3rd person was used till the 60s, but after that the 2nd person is used. In Spain, Germany and other language editions, the 3rd person is used. Just a reflection os what is commonly used.
cant find the reason in any wt publications.
Isn't it great, AnnOMaly, to be able to spread a little light of knowledge to mP and others?
cant find the reason in any wt publications.
"Its funny how God cant write the Bible so its clear. I meant the ancients didnt need hints like capitalisation to make theology clear. Jehovah next time you write a Bible, write it properly so theres no confusion in what you want to say."
It MAY come as a surprise to you, but the Bible was not written in English originally. I know, I know, it is a terrifying surprise to you, but nevertheless it is the truth.
So in Hebrew or Greek and other languages this is no problem - but it is in those languages which do not differ between 2nd and 3rd person plural.
so, as we've seen, there is no independent, epigraphical extra-biblical evidence from archeology for solomon; then what about joshua, samuel, joseph, samson, etc., etc.
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"Theres a very interesting book by a scholar who shows the egyptian and bible parallels. (........) Read the book you will see the truth for yourself."
The only problem (apart from the fact that neither author nor title are mentioned) is that there other very interesting books by other scholars that whow different things, and after reading those books one will be able to see a different truth for oneself ................
One book says A, another says B, and so we are driven by the wind and by the wave from here to there to Neverland, and who knows what is True? For every idea proved there is the exact opposite idea likewise proved, as Charles Fort so wisely put it a century ago.
