Posts by TheOldHippie

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Increase in Publishers for Canada

by William Penwell in

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just heard today from my parents that a member of the canadian bethel said that there is a 1% increase in publishers from last year.

they made such a big deal of it but when you consider that this increase is mostly from jdub's that have been raised in it and are now starting to publish it is not such a big deal.

i was also told that they mentioned about the dangers of the internet and also about all the lawsuites that the "apostates" are bringing against the organization.

TheOldHippie

Just one sentence (OK, one set of sentences, then), please remember the US is not the world. For those of us not having the good fortune to live in the US, the organizational changes, GB resigning, silentlambs, companies, blood reform, new names, who knows what - has no impact on the daily life as Witnesses at all. Itis business as usual. The elders are there, the congregations, the COs, the DOs, the branch, the branch committee - nothing has changed, except that on page 2 of the Watchtower it says Larson in stead of Henschel, but the typing is so small it is hard to see.

US make up some 1 / 6 of the world's Witnesses - not the vast majority. 1 % up or down in Canada or in the US - who cares? But if you begin getting 3-4-5 % down in Mexico, Brasil, Nigeria, Philippines, Poland, Cuba, Russia, Ukraina - then it's a noticeable thing.

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HOUR OF DARKNESS

by Blueblades in

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jim rizoli, larc,farkel, please comment on darek barefoot's book "jw.and the hour of darkness".do you think there is any connection with pat's accusation againt ted jaracz.its about occult subversion and blind faith in the wt.society.there are many pictures in different publications from the society that originate with the occult.

( sorry about the caps.

)thanks for thoughts on this subject.

TheOldHippie

jjrizo said that "The way the WT treated Barefoot for questioning is what really bothered me."

Yep. I have read the book, and while not trying to insult anybody, seldom have had such laughs at reading. In myeyes, it is just Rorschak and seeing whatyou want to see, and just about everything else is so far-fetched that it lines up with various Kennedy and Hoffa and alien abduction stuff etc. ONE drawing is peculiar, the first one. the Zeus (was it him? I don't recall right now) head. I think Barefoot went nuts and just couldn't stop his strange way. He was taking off, and so he "had to be stopped", just as the Silentlambs group. He went public. And that's when the trouble begins, the not-so-nice-treatment.

I know. I did too. Too early. I backed. 'Cause I'm waiting for my time.

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Jw pedofil on tv

by Nordic in

on danish tv the is a program about a man ther had abused two daughter's.www.tv2nord.dk.

look under programmer and se dagens udsendelse and nr 11 siden sidst.

TheOldHippie

I don't quite get this; no. 11 tells about a woman who has three sons but who could also have had a daughter - and that's all which is told .................

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Increase in Publishers for Canada

by William Penwell in

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just heard today from my parents that a member of the canadian bethel said that there is a 1% increase in publishers from last year.

they made such a big deal of it but when you consider that this increase is mostly from jdub's that have been raised in it and are now starting to publish it is not such a big deal.

i was also told that they mentioned about the dangers of the internet and also about all the lawsuites that the "apostates" are bringing against the organization.

TheOldHippie

Overhere, there was an increase of 4 - 5 % during the spring and summer months, as compared to the same months the previous year.

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2 Dead, 3 Missing in Texas Boating Accident

by Funchback in

questions to consider after reading the article:.

since the jws claim to adhere strictly to bible guidelines and they make certain rules or interpretations of the scriptures, should the survivors who were baptized face a judicial committee for putting their lives and the lives of others at risk?

after all, they got on a boat that basically was being operated illegally (too many passengers and not enough life jackets).

TheOldHippie

"a JW always has to start off by saying ..."

I don't! So much for generalization!

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The Third Reich and JW

by Earnest in

i have recently purchased a small book entitled "the third reich and the christian churches" which is "a documentary account of christian resistance and complicity during the nazi era".

interesting reading.. one extract is taken from the book "kirchenkampf in deutschland 1933-1945" (friedrich zipfel, berlin, 1965, pp.527-533) which records the trial of fourteen jws before the berlin supreme court in november 1944:.

the writing, 'look the facts in the face' [probably 'face the facts', printed in 1938], has the impertinence to launch vicious attacks on the leadership of the national socialist state.

TheOldHippie

It was no wish to create martyrs; I don't think that has ever been among the aims of the Witness community. I will take South Africa as an example; during the days of Apartheid, there were separated dining rooms and dwelling facilities at Bethel, and conventions were segregated. Congregations, because of the neighbourhoods in which they were, were also in this way segregated. If one had wished to create martyrs, would one not have had mixed congregations and conventions, refused to separate the workers at Bethel both at work and meals and at night? I guess things were to a certain extent the same in the racist Deep South of the US.

Was it a courageous exposure of the dangers of Nazism? Yes, but also to a certain extent No, because we are here not speaking about a group who were / are opposed to Nazism as such, but opposed to the fact that Nazism refused them their right to worship as they wanted to, and persecuted them - and others - for the sake of their religion. If Nazism hypothetically speaking had not persecuted the Witnesses or Jews or Communists or Sinti and Roma etc and had made provisions for alternatives to military service, I guess there would have been no protests from the Witnesses. But that of course is very hypothetically, as the questions arises, Would it then have been Nazism, What would Nazism have been without persection of the Jews, dictatorship etc. But I only try to tell they in my eyes were not freedom fighters as such, but fighters for their right to serve their God as they wanted to. Again South Africa as an example, they did not go to the newspapers or other media to expose the dangers of Apartheid, and they did not join ranks with Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. to march in Atlanta and Mississippi. They did not protest against the fascist attrocities committed by Pinochet in Chile, but they said Yes when they were called upon to fill the vacancies after Communists and Socialists and Union men had been imprisoned and murdered by the Chile fascists. This is told in the Yearbook.

So they fill a space between protest and martyrdom.

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THIS IS FOR ALL CURRENT WITNESSES!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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this is for all of the current jehovah's witnesses who have questions about things they may have heard about on this website (or on dateline or other media), such as 1975, 1914 generation, blood policy changes, requiring women to scream when they are attacked by a rapist, and especially, the watchtower society's pedophile policy.. below are links to threads i have made that show clearly the answers to your questions about numerous topics, taken directly from the watchtower society's own publications: .

armageddon was supposed to come in 1925: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37072&site=3.

armageddon was supposed to come in 1975: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36961&site=3.

TheOldHippie

But if you aim at achieving something, I think you should be aware of the fact that your style in presentation only leads to your potential readers' backing off. No-one likes to be insulted.

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'Great Earthquakes'

by No Apologies in

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in a followup to the march 22, 2002 awake series of articles on earthquakes, the nov 8, 2002 awake has a letter from a reader questioning the frequency of earthquakes.

earthquakes i read the cover series "earthquake survivors tell their story.

" (march 22, 2002) in it you quote a source stating that"earthquakes of 7.0 magnitude and greater remained 'fairly constant' throughout the20th century.

TheOldHippie

"There will be earthquakes - sometimes more frequent, sometimes less - sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller - but yes, there will be earthquakes."

And darkness at night, as you say. And as a rule sunshine - or rain and cloudy - at daytime.

But it will be, definetly, yes.

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GROSS INCOME!

by Kagloo in

a question.... .

i have already mentioned this on another thread but got no answer... perhaps someone here can help.... .

it has been reported that the wtbts 'made' (what ever that means) $931 million in 2000. what does that mean?

TheOldHippie

There are huge amounts spent on building KH, branch buildings, convention halls, expenditure for COs etc. Money are given from one country to another as gifts or as loans, building goods are bought in one country and given as a gift to another, I don't think there is a vast surplus massed up somewhere. Funds might grow for a time, but then money is taken from them to finance other things. The investment or sleeping or passive sum or whatever you call it, of course grows thru buildings etc., but there hardly is a huge cash bank box somewhere. Expence cutting plans at branches etc. tell there is no real surplus.

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'Great Earthquakes'

by No Apologies in

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in a followup to the march 22, 2002 awake series of articles on earthquakes, the nov 8, 2002 awake has a letter from a reader questioning the frequency of earthquakes.

earthquakes i read the cover series "earthquake survivors tell their story.

" (march 22, 2002) in it you quote a source stating that"earthquakes of 7.0 magnitude and greater remained 'fairly constant' throughout the20th century.

TheOldHippie

A new Reasong book will be published in December / January, undoubtedly with these changes.

I asked a similar question, and the response was: The article deals with the question of earthquakes from a different angle. The footnote state that "some claim that every increase in reported earthquakes merely is due to technical progress which has enabled us to gather information about more seismic shake-ups." Please note that when the US center for earthquake information states that the frequency was rather constant during the last century, nothing is said as to whether or not there were more or stronger quakes in the 20th century as compared to previous centuries. Without taking sides on this issue, our article merely pointed out what some seismologists assert regarding the overall frequency of earthquakes in the 20th century. The point was made that even if one believes that the number of earthquakes has remained "fairly constant," Jesus' prophecy recorded in Matthew 24 is being fulfilled in our era. Jesus simply said that "great earthquakes would occur.--Luke 12:11.

(My translation) Clearly quite a few have asked the question, and a standard reply has been produced.