It will always be the most stubborn one, the hardliner no. 1. The others will yield, and the hardliner gets his way.
TheOldHippie
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UK LGBT press responds to Jehovah's Witness Governing Body member Anthony Morris
by Balaamsass2 inhttp://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/10/jehovahs-witnesses-boss-dont-wear-tight-trousers-theyre-designed-by-homosexuals/.
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TheOldHippie
I would have preferred it if his talk had been remembered for something else - something with a bit more essence, sting, meaning, weight, importance, whatever - anything but this.
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Is the Society trying to self sabotage?
by truthseeker ini'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?
are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.
i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .
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TheOldHippie
Some weed?
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Is the Society trying to self sabotage?
by truthseeker ini'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?
are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.
i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .
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TheOldHippie
"so many of the publications have been simplified and the doctrine has been so dumbed down (to the dismay of countless witnesses)."
"So here these guys are having to give talks and have really nothing to say."
There is much truth in these statements, there is.
A young girl died in our neighbourhood a few years back, some 700 came to the church for the funeral, I thought to myself that the priest had a once-in-a-lifetime chance of getting a meaningful message thru to a young crowd, but all he gave was mumbo mumbo, and he even managed to pronounce the name wrongly. In another thread here, someone wisely wrote that here 1,000,000 friends were gathered - and they got a talk on dress and judgmental hierarchyism. 100,000 friends in my area a couple of years ago were connected, and what we got was a talk on how getting an education is like shooting yourself in the head.
Some times, my friends, it seems the WT is its own worst enemy. And it seems especially so the "higher" the speaker is. I get so disappointed at the GB talks. Life ain't easy for a well-educated JW .....................
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JW`s claim to follow 1st Century christians ,identifying them as true christians distinguishing them from false christians of christendom.
by smiddy inthey critisize the dress code of modern society , that may be permitted at a church of christendom , jeans , slacks worn by women , denim skirts worn by women ,spanx worn by women who have been exercising ,jogging shoes , no tie`s worn by men , beards on men , long hair by men, sandals ,thongs, flipflops , and i`m sure their are many more you can think of .. none of these dress codes/styles are tolerated at jehovahs witness meetings , if you try turning up in any of this attire you will be counselled to change your ways after a few of your attempts.. so if they have a problem which they do , why dont they instruct the faithfull to truly follow the 1st century christians by wearing the traditional dress that was worn in bible times , for men and women .
meh-eel .. why dont they allow men to have beards and long hair and sandals that was a requirement for gaining approval of god in the first century.. the fact of the matter is they give lip service to following the first century christians , however the reality , is they dont.. smiddy.
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TheOldHippie
Our PO has a beard and wears sandals - also when giving public talks ....................
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Anthony Morris The Third
by Yondaime inwhen i am3 was going to speak i was ecstatic to hear this lunatic embarass himself.
after the propaganda indoctrination session, a relative asked me what my spiritual goals were, i told em i want to become a servant before i turn 23 so i could get laid.
lmfao.
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TheOldHippie
I found the "It's my big brother they've got to worry about" comments from the annual meeting strange .........
When you see people delivering a talk, gestures, expression etc., you get an impression of what sort of people they are. I feel Morris, Loesch and Herd are of the "Jaracz type", Jackson is of the "Sydlik type" and then Sanderson, Lett and Spline are more of the "neutral" type.
Morris tries to be the grandfather-type, but these comments of his are strange. Maybe they would have fitted well in a US 1950's sort of life.
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US Zone visit
by obarac inanyone will atend?.
how we can follow this meeting?.
anyone will inform us live?.
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TheOldHippie
Has there never been a zone visit before in the US? I don't get the exitement!!!!
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Questions concerning Deng Xiaoping
by fulltimestudent inon another thread band on the run requested that i answer certain questions she put to me concerning deng xiaoping.
i requested another thread for that, one wasn't started so i start it myself.. i see the questions are reasonable, at least for someone who (admittedly) claims to know little about china, and i have no issues about answering them.
like all humans deng xiaoping, is a mix of good things and not so good things.. in telling deng's story, i have no wish to distort history, i see no reason to tell "outright lies about the past, or to omit facts that may lead to unacceptable conclusions or to gloss over anything with a quiet, slight admission that is buried by some other detail.
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TheOldHippie
Deng did ONE thing - he destroyed everything that Mao and the Communist Party had fought to accomplish for decades, he restored capitalism and paved the way for the military-fascist regime that is now in control. A scumbag.
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Russian authorities nab Jehovahs Witnesses for dumping waste
by objectivetruth inhttp://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20141107/272536636.html.
st. petersburg, november 7 (rapsi) environmental prosecutors office for st. petersburg have uncovered violations by the russian jehovahs witnesses chapter, according to the statement issued by the prosecution on friday.. the prosecutors office reports that the religious organization dumped waste in a creek that flows into the gulf of finland, in upstate st. petersburg, without any permit.. the neva-ladoga water authority confirmed that in 2013, jehovahs witnesses dumped more than 30 thousand cubic meters of waste into the creek.
in 2014, authorities detected a rise in concentrations in ammonium lignosulphonate and fluoride, in violation of the on environmental protection federal law and water code of russian federation.. the prosecutors have filed a lawsuit against dumping waste into the creek.
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TheOldHippie
"illegally occupying a body of water"
Yeah, sure ....................
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Russian authorities nab Jehovahs Witnesses for dumping waste
by objectivetruth inhttp://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20141107/272536636.html.
st. petersburg, november 7 (rapsi) environmental prosecutors office for st. petersburg have uncovered violations by the russian jehovahs witnesses chapter, according to the statement issued by the prosecution on friday.. the prosecutors office reports that the religious organization dumped waste in a creek that flows into the gulf of finland, in upstate st. petersburg, without any permit.. the neva-ladoga water authority confirmed that in 2013, jehovahs witnesses dumped more than 30 thousand cubic meters of waste into the creek.
in 2014, authorities detected a rise in concentrations in ammonium lignosulphonate and fluoride, in violation of the on environmental protection federal law and water code of russian federation.. the prosecutors have filed a lawsuit against dumping waste into the creek.
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TheOldHippie
Just look at the second latest news cited:
MOSCOW, August 1 (RAPSI) – The Namangan police in eastern Uzbekistan have arrested members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses religion for trying to convert local Muslims and for holding secret prayer meetings, a local police officer told RIA Novosti on Friday.
“We stopped an illegal meeting of this organization and found print and electronic media in the meeting room that we collected for further review,” the source said. All of the arrested are Uzbek citizens.
Under the Uzbek law on the freedom of conscience and religious associations, religious literature can only be used by registered religious associations within its registration area. The law also prohibits religious propaganda.
The arrested could face a fine of up to 100 times the minimum wage (about $5,000 at the Central Bank of Uzbekistan exchange rate).
Over 2,200 religious associations have been registered in Uzbekistan. More than 90% of them are Muslim organizations, but there are also 159 Christian organizations, eight Jewish and six Baha’i communities, one Hare Krishna society and one Buddhist pagoda in Uzbekistan.