WT does not invest. But people may have long-term investments made for example from before they became JWs and then the WT has inherited these stocks upon their death, and as far as I have understood it, US laws in certain respects are such that one cannot "get out" of the ownership. There are some very technical discussions here that seem alein to us non-US ones, but that at least is how I have been able to understand it.
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Jehovahs witnesses investing in stocks involving pornography, alcohol distribution and military war weapons??
by Ghiagirl inwhy is this the first time i have come across this?
my husband showed me a video about how the jws invest in stock like cinemax, disney, companies producing war weapons, alcohol and much much more.
if this is true, there are tax records to show for it right?
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JW's pressed the rain down in Ukraine
by oppostate injw brothersasamblea en ucrania 7.712 aguantando la lluvia que buen ejemplo para nosotros!
!que gran ejemplo y aguante!.
would you sit under torrential rain out in the open during a convention?.
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TheOldHippie
Steve2, I think you might be mixing Romania and Ukraine together. In Romania you have a major splinter group (Rutherfordian-Early Knorrian group). What happened in Ukraine? Russian occupation happened. On the Crimea, there were many JWs, and they now find themselves in a twilight country.
And many seem to forget one thing when commenting on declining number of JWs in specific countries: There is a HUGE migration from Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Lithuania, Ukraine etc. etc. to all of the Western European countries. So it does not make sense in the way it did earlier to look at the Yearbook to find out how it is in JW land in a country as Poland. Population size is declining in some of these countires, people leave for other countries, and that is reflected in the number of JWs. In some of the Western European countries, up towards 7-8-9 % of the JWs are Polish, come from Poland. Of course there is therefore a decline or at least no growth in Poland itself. And the same goes for Lithuania, Ukraine etc.
If one should find out how it is "really" going these days, one would have to add the number of JWs in for example Polish-speaking congregations in Germany etc. to the number of JWs in Poland itself.
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UKIP giving doorstep campaigns a bad name, insist Jehovah’s Witnesses
by cofty injehovah’s witnesses have today claimed that the concept of knocking on someone’s door and talking them into believing in the same crazy things as you could disappear thanks to right-wing bullshit....
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TheOldHippie
Was this supposedly said by a JW? - Or is it a British humour I have not understood?
Jehovah’s Witness Simon Williams told us, “For years people have just about tolerated us knocking on their door to talk to them about Jesus, blood transfusions, and where black people come from – but now folks are just too afraid of the doorbell.
“Who wants to open their door when there is a strong possibility you’ll be subjected to a load of bullshit from a right-wing moron who believes that your morning commute takes too long because of immigrants?
“At least when we are at your door we have some nice fairy stories to tell you about heaven and stuff – I mean, who wants to hear about millions of Turkish terrorists swimming the Channel to reach our shores?”
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New Spiritually Weak Label: Not Using Tablet/iPhone
by Doubtfully Yours inwith last night's meeting it became official: here in the states is a must to keep up with 'jehovah's org' that one fully jumps on board with this tablet/iphone crap.. so, now, all of us that up to this point have refused to follow the wtbts in their electronic/wireless revolution will deal with the browbeating from the 'spiritual' ones.. already receiving lots of grief from hubby and rest of the family/close friends when seen at the meetings with paper publications.
damn it!!!
am i alone in this resistance???!!!.
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Doubtfully Yours, "Am I alone in this resistance???!!!"
No, you are not alone - I am totally with you on this one, with my "for talking and Messages only phone" and Windows7 - and a huge old-fashioned library.
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JWTV May Broadcast is up. hosted by an old burnt hot dog
by Dreamerdude inwhat's up with jw parents taking their minor children to such desolate places?
like the english family that took their little kids to the jungles of ecuador, and the australians that took their little ones to norfolk island where hardly anyone lives, and they are the only children in a congregation of 11 publishers?
is this a new form of child abuse?
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TheOldHippie
" It was a god forsaken shit hole of a town."
Yes, the world outside of the US borders is a terrible place - how happy I am for you that you have the wonderful, safe, abundant, clean Great Trump USA in which to live.
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Why did Jehovah want to kill Moses?
by Doug Mason inon the way, at a place where they spent the night, the lord met him and tried to kill him.
but zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched moses' feet with it, and said, "truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!
it was then she said, "a bridegroom of blood by circumcision.
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Not quite ignored, it is quoted in Insight, saying
Scholars have offered many interpretations of this passage, some of these being incorporated into modern Bible translations. (See CC, JB, Kx, La, NE, RS, as well as the German Zürcher Bibel, the Spanish Bover-Cantera and the French Crampon, Lienart, and Segond versions.) Such interpretations attempt to settle questions as to whether it was Moses’ or the child’s life that was threatened, whether Zipporah touched the feet of Moses or the feet of the child or the feet of the angel with the foreskin. They also venture opinions as to why Zipporah said (and to whom she said), “You are a bridegroom of blood to me.”
It seems that it was the child’s life that was in danger in view of what the law of circumcision states at Genesis 17:14; that Zipporah circumcised the child because she realized what was needed to set matters right; that she cast the foreskin at the feet of the angel who was threatening the child’s life to demonstrate her compliance with Jehovah’s law; that Zipporah addressed Jehovah through his representative angel when she exclaimed, “You are a bridegroom of blood to me,” doing so to show her acceptance of a wifely position in the circumcision covenant with Jehovah as the husband.—See Jer 31:32.
But there is no way of Scripturally settling such questions with certainty. The literal reading of the ancient Hebrew in this passage is veiled in the idioms used nearly 3,500 years ago. This is why literal translations (NW, Ro, Yg) and others (AS, KJ, Da, Dy, JP, Mo, Le), including the ancient Greek Septuagint, are not clear on these matters.
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JWTV May Broadcast is up. hosted by an old burnt hot dog
by Dreamerdude inwhat's up with jw parents taking their minor children to such desolate places?
like the english family that took their little kids to the jungles of ecuador, and the australians that took their little ones to norfolk island where hardly anyone lives, and they are the only children in a congregation of 11 publishers?
is this a new form of child abuse?
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When other people take their children with them to spend a year sailing around the world, live for some years among highland people of the Andes, live in China to broaden their view - it is regarded an excellent thing and lots of other people sigh, thinking/saying "why didn't WE do that"? Why is it a bad thing in Your eyes? We often have planned or thought of setting off and living somewhere else for months/years, but never have gotten as far as really doing it. Wish it were me, wish it were my parents. -
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Are JWs now encouraged to volunteer?
by Athanasius inafter i retired i volunteered for several community service programs, including working with the local food bank.
every fourth thursday of each month i help out in distributing food to needy families at the local veterans building.
i've been helping out for five years now.
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Official Watchtower representative at Government / Religion meeting in Austria
by Gorbatchov inpart 3 of maybe not so relevant information, but nice to know and opening my eyes during the past years, were this pictures of an official watchtower representative attending a meeting between the austrian government and the country's main religions.
i don't know who the representative is, no names, no face, i cut and past it from some website.
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TheOldHippie
So what? A Meeting between some government institution and representatives of religious groups, what's the problem? Does that have to be some conspiracy-thing? The government perhaps wants to discuss some planned changes in legislation towards religious groups and wishes the opinion of the named groups. Perhaps they want to know how the climate can be better between them and the groups. Perhaps they want to know whether the groups want to be involved in some charity work towards refugges - who knows? Two pictures, so what? -
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No historical evidence for bronze age men living to 500yrs old?
by purrpurr inthe bible tells us that noah etc lived to 500yrs old as did many other characters who lived apparently to incredible years.. yet archaeological research tells us from looking at skeletons that have been dug up that the average lifespan was very short.
if a man got to the age of 50 they would have considered that quite an achievement.
when i was in i always wondered about this?
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Could not a man whose body was far more perfect than ours, be estimated by researchers today to have died at the age of 40, whereas in reality he was 736? How would the bones of a close-to-perfect man, Bible style, age - and would not his body be judged by today's researchers based on how bone decay and structure is today?