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  Typical JW Apologist

  by TheStar in

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  this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .

  do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.

  yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.

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  TheStar

  The wheels on the bus go round and round....

  LOL@DB. Hey DB, It's clear as a bell, Hector says they are a "prophet" not a prophet. [8>]

  *** Watchtower 1982 October 1 p.26-27 Be as Men Who Are Facing Har-Magedon Unafraid ***

  7 Jeremiah was to perform the part of a full-grown man, for what his God inspired him to write was to be of importance to all mankind, even today. A “prophet to the nations” is what Jehovah made him. (Jeremiah 1:5) Now today, if anything, there needs to be a “prophet to the nations,” as patriotic self-willed nations are being inexorably gathered to an all-deciding showdown at Har–Magedon. Not that the God-given message of the modern “prophet to the nations” will be successful in turning them from a course that leads to their sure destruction, but there are human individuals involved. Such individuals without number, on being warned, would not want to perish with the nations of which they are citizens. If these can do anything about it, they do not want to be caught fighting against the Almighty God just in the interest of human self-government. In behalf of such right-hearted individuals Jehovah has considerately raised up his “prophet to the nations.” Jehovah has done this during this “time of the end,” since World War I ended on November 11, 1918.—Daniel 12:4.
  8 In behalf of such individuals who at heart seek God's rule instead of man's rule, the "prophet" whom Jehovah has raised up has been, not an individual man as in the case of Jeremiah, but a class. The members of this class are, like the prophet-priest Jeremiah, wholly dedicated to Jehovah God through Christ and, by the begettal of Jehovah's holy spirit, they have been made part of "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession."
  (1 Peter 2:9) At this late date there is a mere remnant of this “prophet” class yet on earth. The “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon could not start before this composite “prophet” ends his work.

  [Emphasis Added]

  Jeremiah was a prophet to the nations and we are the modern day prophet to the nations but we are merely "prophets" and in no way claim to be a prophet like Jeremiah.

  See it's clear as a bell. [8>] Poor Hector it really isn't his fault, he's just doing what mommy said he should, defend his mommy regardless.
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  Women say JWs downplay sex abuse

  by Dogpatch in

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  women say jehovah's witnesses downplay sex abuse.

  http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17601862.shtml?element_id=17601862.

  two middle tennessee women said they have a full understanding of a tullahoma woman's claim that the jehovah's witnesses organization has downplayed or ignored child sexual abuse for years.. ''in fact, nothing happened to the man who molested me,'' said melissa trice, 30, of spring hill, about an incident she says occurred in shelbyville 22 years ago.. ''one of the elders asked me, 'what were you wearing?

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  Thanks Randy for the article.

  Another nightmare of a story. It hurts my heart to hear what these two women have had to go through since childhood and I'm outtraged that the unamed woman's parents don't speak to her! She says they don't understand... What's to understand for crying out loud!!

  Hello your child was molested by another JW and nothing was done about it, of course she doesn't want anything to do with the dog-on religion!!

  How long will this continue I ask... How many more young children will have to suffer this way??????
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  Gods has a body ???WT says so

  by mouthy in

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  may 15th watchtower 2002-i see where they say god has a body!!!!

  as well as a spirit-didnt i learn as a jw he was only spirit no body-.

  i guess the "body snatchers" must have returned the body--or do we have new light here??

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  Mouthy,

  No Problem, you are very welcomed. Anytime I can help, I'll be there. No new light in the article but we found lots of other interesting things like contridictions and illogical conclusions. Nothing new but they need to be pointed out for all to see.
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  Gods has a body ???WT says so

  by mouthy in

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  may 15th watchtower 2002-i see where they say god has a body!!!!

  as well as a spirit-didnt i learn as a jw he was only spirit no body-.

  i guess the "body snatchers" must have returned the body--or do we have new light here??

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  Crownboy,

  It reminds me of a time when a dear friend of mine (who's husband is not a JW) told me one time that her husband's biggest beef with the WT, besides feeling some of their theology is wrong, is that "they try too hard to make things fit." At the time of course I was the dopy,faithful JW and didn't see how this was true.

  This is a perfect example of what he was talking about.

  Regarding my signature, If it wasn't in black in white I would have never believed it either... How far off they have strayed from what the religion was supposed to be.
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  Gods has a body ???WT says so

  by mouthy in

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  may 15th watchtower 2002-i see where they say god has a body!!!!

  as well as a spirit-didnt i learn as a jw he was only spirit no body-.

  i guess the "body snatchers" must have returned the body--or do we have new light here??

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  I caught that too Nemesis.

  As I was transcribing it, I had to re-read that part. My first thought was "What the h**l? Why are they so blatantly contradicting themselves for all to clearly see?"

  Has the writing department always written this way? When I was active was I so blind (and/or stupid) as to not see contradictory statements like this in other articles?
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  Gods has a body ???WT says so

  by mouthy in

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  may 15th watchtower 2002-i see where they say god has a body!!!!

  as well as a spirit-didnt i learn as a jw he was only spirit no body-.

  i guess the "body snatchers" must have returned the body--or do we have new light here??

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  TheStar

  My scanner is on the brinks right now but I will type the whole subtopic.

  Watchtower May 15, 2002 Page 4

  Who is God?

  An Impersonal Force or a Real Person?

  Many who believe in God think of him as a force, not as a person. In certain cultures, for example, gods have been identified with the forces of nature. Some who have examined evidence gathered through scientific research into the structure of the universe and the nature of life on earth have concluded that there has to be a First Cause. Nevertheless, they hesitate to attach a personality to the Cause.

  Yet, does not the complexity of creation indicate that the First Cause must have had great intelligence? Intelligence requires a mind. The great mind responsible for all creation belongs to the person of God. Yes, God has a body, not a physical one like ours, but a spiritual body. “If there is a physical body, “ says the Bible, “there is a spiritual one.”(1 Corinthians 14:44) Explaining the nature of God, the Bible clearly states: “God is a Spirit.”(John 4:24) A spirit has a form of life that differs greatly from ours, and it is invisible to human eyes. (John 1:18) There are invisible spirit creatures as well. They are angels – “the sons of the true God.” – Job 1:6,2:1.

  Since God is an uncreated person with a spiritual body, he logically has a place of residence. Referring to the spirit realm, the Bible tells us that the heavens are God’s “established place of dwelling.”(1 Kings 8:43) Also, the Bible writer Paul states: ‘Christ entered into heaven itself to appear before the person of God for us.’ – Hebrews 9:24

  The word “Spirit” is also used in the Bible in another sense. Addressing God in prayer, the psalmist said: “If you send forth your spirit, they are created.” (Psalm 104:30) This spirit is not God himself but a force that God sends forth, or uses, to accomplish whatever he wishes. By means of it, God created the physical heavens, the earth, and all living things. (Genesis 1:2; Psalm 33:6) His spirit is called holy spirit. God used his holy spirit to inspire the men who wrote the Bible. (2 Peter 1:20,21) Hence, the holy spirit is the invisible active force that God uses to fulfill his purposes.
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  UADNA Announcement? (non-member)

  by out4good3 in

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  some time ago i briefly remember a thread that implied that there would be a big announcement coming from this organization?

  something that would blow the wt out of the water.. still waiting patiently, or was this all a ruse?.

  did i miss something here.

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  Yerusalyim,

  Hold Up!!

  Out4good is innocently inquiring, as I did a few months back.

  We're "newbies" that haven't been around this board for years and years like some of you and thus were left in the dark about the whole thing.
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  Watchtower Charity Reports

  by nicolaou in

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  there are useful bits and pieces to be gleaned from these links.. http://www.guidestar.org/search/report/gs_report.jsp?npoid=447443&context=enpvuj1ve0eqhdsysr1jehshgfgqbe1dh0bicriqooigsxyfvts%2bg9%2btwd8eu3pojqvsgihoqujufnclrulit1dwaxcity3o2puhtk7au9pse2%2fevn2jy6gadx6oxp4opkdf6mw5imgwam%2bgvjjsnfpeq9mn1gfyt6vmbatq%2b8pfa%2f1bgzpdoboi5ibiahdhoeffyhr7fdyije90orzqwaqfmlyy7ecspn%2ftkipngozfnckvkv1gjek%2bgjdq6kj9sbwmfxfadj0tsofth5o2nkzewzsqeknbtvface37ygqrkxng9fqvjbuamqw5h5zmky1njpdseqdwdupgcjug0bxw1mxbdpogjahwxypvm%2fl4jhp%2fywuyypq7ah2tmakkllpznnfgpgfmww59u%2f39ilu58b7smlwihuimofa50nbzuh6hsrghkjrfzt24%2fvj31wqut6ahfuzbgllsadq5symkskzftnkx3lo9v7nvsqveuhto%2b3tkr4zhzusjmmayc7y%2bbeny9ea5tn99%2fptn8putayua6grlttbo2hl3jb8psl86endl9e3pn2wairnnrlqx1tkzyz8zhza2n%2fhfionm3rz%2f6e2%2bfazrvplejv%2b4ol2ryrhai9rsjbgulqqzz%2b78pbw6m8a06szkuhya6mdmd%2fbnkp%2bbn%2f8bs5nyrq%3d%3d.

  http://www.guidestar.org/search/report/effective.jsp?npoid=447443&context=enpvuj1ve0eqhdsysr1jehshgfgqbe1dh0bicriqooigsxyfvts%2bg9%2btwd8eu3pojqvsgihoqujufnclrulit1dwaxcity3o2puhtk7au9pse2%2fevn2jy6gadx6oxp4opkdf6mw5imgwam%2bgvjjsnfpeq9mn1gfyt6vmbatq%2b8pfa%2f1bgzpdoboi5ibiahdhoeffyhr7fdyije90orzqwaqfmlyy7ecspn%2ftkipngozfnckvkv1gjek%2bgjdq6kj9sbwmfxfadj0tsofth5o2nkzewzsqeknbtvface37ygqrkxng9fqvjbuamqw5h5zmky1njpdseqdwdupgcjug0bxw1mxbdpogjahwxypvm%2fl4jhp%2fywuyypq7ah2tmakkllpznnfgpgfmww59u%2f39ilu58b7smlwihuimofa50nbzuh6hsrghkjrfzt24%2fvj31wqut6ahfuzbgllsadq5symkskzftnkx3lo9v7pvil0lhtpz2t9tojimkynk1astmbp1aruxqzfptf3r46c%2fh69vwvsbvccoc7j21pa4j%2fl4qprv0bsrq29%2fvikdfjltctwktzaexf7j6lc0%2fywvvhxk6ub4r2%2fypwby9830kvncxemntmbqwtrmz8rwavgyfxbnj%2bxq2tsmvtcmw%2bxtrd82u7m%2fh%2fwp%2fpwptcxx4w%3d%3d.

  http://www.guidestar.org/search/full_report/index.jsp?npoid=447443&context=enpvuj1ve0eqhdsysr1jehshgfgqbe1dh0bicriqooigsxyfvts%2bg9%2btwd8eu3pojqvsgihoqujufnclrulit1dwaxcity3o2puhtk7au9pse2%2fevn2jy6gadx6oxp4opkdf6mw5imgwam%2bgvjjsnfpeq9mn1gfyt6vmbatq%2b8pfa%2f1bgzpdoboi5ibiahdhoeffyhr7fdyije90orzqwaqfmlyy7ecspn%2ftkipngozfnckvkv1gjek%2bgjdq6kj9sbwmfxfadj0tsofth5o2nkzewzsqeknbtvface37ygqrkxng9fqvjbuamqw5h5zmky1njpdseqdwdupgcjug0bxw1mxbdpogjahwxypvm%2fl4jhp%2fywuyypq7ah2tmakkllpznnfgpgfmww59u%2f39ilu58b7smlwihuimofa50nbzuh6hsrghkjrfzt24%2fvj31wqut6ahfuzbgllsadq5symkskzftnkx3lo9v7pvil0lhtpz2t9tojimkynk1astmbp1aruxqzfptf3r46c%2fh69vwvsbvccoc7j21pa4j%2fl4qprv0bsrq29%2fvikdfjltctwktzaexf7j6lc0%2fywvvhxk6ub4r2%2fypwby9830kvncxemntmbqwtrmz8rwavgyfxbnj%2bxq2tsmvtcmw%2bxtrd82u7m%2fh%2fwp%2fpwptcxx4w%3d%3d.

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  TheStar

  Haven't they always said that the world wide brotherhood was responsibile for making the appropriate conributions to the organization?

  Isn't that why the don't have bake sales or any fundraisers, because they say that would be asking for charity from Satan's world?

  Isn't this asking for charity from Satan World as well?

  INTERESTING!!! Thanks for the great investigative work Nic!
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  When does the shunning start...I'm confused...

  by TheApostleAK in

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  i don't know what the hell is going on over here but since i da'd myself only half the jw's shun me......i was told by a jw over the phone (a lot of jws still phone me) that the elders have gone up to everyone in the cong to personally to say i'm da'd (as opposed to an announcement from the platform), yet when i walk into the hall for meetings people still greet me.

  i think they do it just to piss the elders off...... also, as some of you know my literature/magazine order was cancelled by the elders, i got in contact with an old friend in another congregation (a ex-pioneer who got df'd yet i still visited him when he was df'd...reinstated a while back) and he now gets me the magazines even though i told him i'm da'd.

  he said he could care if i was a jw or not.

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  TR,

  Every time you say "'hovah" or "the 'hovahs" I can't help but to crack up laughing.
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  Typical JW Apologist

  by TheStar in

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  this jw (like so many do) avoids discussing the real issues at hand and instead opts for: .

  do jehovah's witnesses have pedophiles in their mists?.

  yes but look at everyone else that does too and they're much worse.. i'm not even going to mention how badly he defends the un scandal, i'll let you read it yourself.. this guy has your typical "holier-than-thou" attitude.

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  Hector,

  It seems you are quite the topic of discussion on this board lately.

  I guess we just can't seem to get enough of your warm chrisitian love.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27639&site=3