Utopian Reformist: Very fair and balanced comments....I do enjoy your posts.........
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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26Arab Regimes, Not Israel, Are Guilty of Racism
by ThiChi inafter reading some very interesting claims on the last israel/us funding issue, janh started a side point on israels racism and pointed to egypt as an example to follow.
i would like to share this viewpoint: .
arab regimes, not israel, are guilty of racism .
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Arab Regimes, Not Israel, Are Guilty of Racism
by ThiChi inafter reading some very interesting claims on the last israel/us funding issue, janh started a side point on israels racism and pointed to egypt as an example to follow.
i would like to share this viewpoint: .
arab regimes, not israel, are guilty of racism .
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SS: I wonder why??
""The Palestinian grudge against Israel is not just a political one, but a religious one as well. So says Director of Palestinian Media Watch Itamar Marcus in his recent report and at a recent oral presentation at Tel Aviv University's Jaffe Center for Strategic Studies. In his paper entitled "Islam's Mandatory War Against Jews and Israel," Marcus documents Islamic holy leaders declaring Jews to be "the eternal enemies of Allah," and the killing of Jews to be Allah's will. Palestinian Media Watch monitors the Palestinian media and issues regular reports, which can be had by emailing pmw@netvision.net.il.
"The Palestinians have redefined the conflict from one over borders, in which compromise may be a solution, into a religious war for Allah in which compromise is heretical," Marcus explains. Religious leaders in the Palestinian Authority who lead Friday services in mosques continuously emphasize the following eight points:
* Jews are the enemy of Allah
* The killing of a Jew is a religious obligation
* All agreements with Israel are temporary in nature
* Islam is fighting a religious war against the Jews
* Palestinians are the vanguard in this war against the Jews, but all of Islam is obligated to assist them
* All the of the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is Islamic trust and any Muslim who relinquishes his land is damned to hell
* Allah will replace Muslims who shirk their duty to fight Israel
* The ultimate destruction of Israel is a certainty
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Marcus notes a number of horrifying quotes straight from the mouths of Palestinian Authority religious leaders that make the above points, including the following:"We the Palestinian nation, our fate from Allah is to be the vanguard in the war against the Jews until the resurrection of the dead, as the prophet Muhammad said: 'The resurrection of the dead will not arrive until you will fight the Jews and kill them…'"
-- Dr. Muhammed Ibrahim Madi
Palestinian Television
March 30, 2001"The Jews are the Jews... They are all liars... They are terrorists. Therefore it is necessary to slaughter them and murder them, according to the words of Allah... it is forbidden to have mercy in your hearts for the Jews in any place and in any land. Make war on them any place that you find yourself. Any place that you encounter them, kill them. Kill the Jews and those among the Americans that are like them... The Jews only understand might. Have no mercy on the Jews, murder them everywhere..."
-- Preacher Dr. Ahmed Yousuf Abu Halabiah -
[member Palestinian Sharianic (Islamic religious law) Rulings Council, and Director of Advanced Studies at the Islamic University]
Palestinian Television
October 13, 2000"Blessed is he who fights Jihad in the name of Allah, blessed is he who [goes on] raids in the name of Allah, blessed is he who dons a vest of explosives on himself or on his children and goes in to the depth of the Jews and says: Allahu Akbar, Blessed be Allah. Like the collapse of the building upon the heads of the Jews in their sinful dance-hall, I ask of Allah that we see the Knesset collapsing on the heads of the Jews."
-- Dr. Muhammad Ibrahim Madi
Friday Sermon, Palestinian TV
June 8, 2001"The Day of Resurrection will not come without the victory of the believers over the descendants of the monkeys and pigs and with their annihilation."
-- Sheikh Muhammed Abd Al Hadi La'afi
[Responsible for Religious Teaching and Instruction in the Office of the Wakf]
Official P.A. newspaper, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida
May 18, 2001--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quotes from PA religious leaders regarding territorial compromise:"We are discussing the current problems and when we speak about Jerusalem it doesn't mean that we have forgotten about Hebron or about Jaffa or about Acre.... we are speaking about the current problems that have priority at a certain time. It doesn't mean that we have given up... We have announced a number of times that from a religious point of view Palestine from the sea to the river is Islamic."
[Note: Jaffa and Acre are Israeli cities.]-- Sheikh Ikrima Sabri
Palestinian Authority's Mufti of Jerusalem and Palestine
Palestinian Television
January 11, 2001"Even if agreements were signed [regarding] Gaza and the West Bank, we will not forget [the currently Israeli cities of] Haifa, Acre, Jaffa, the Galilee Triangle, and the Negev. It is only a question of time. . ."
-- Dr. Ahmed Abu Halabiah
Palestinian Television
October 13, 2000"All of the agreements entered into [with Israel] are temporary, until the decree comes from Allah and until the destiny from Allah is realized."
-- Dr. Muhammed Ibrahim Madi Palestinian Television
July 28, 2000"We exaggerate when we say 'peace'... what we are speaking about is 'Hudna', a temporary ceasefire."
-- Arab Knesset Member Abdel Maleh Dahamshe
Palestinian Television
September 1, 2000--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What so-called "Palestinians" Teach in School:"Patriotism in Islam: In Islam, it is not improper for a Muslim to love his homeland. To the contrary, Islam encourages this, and established its defense as an obligatory commandment for every Muslim if even a centimeter of his land is stolen. I, a Palestinian Muslim, love my country Palestine... Islam considers anyone who is killed while defending [the land] a martyr of the highest order..."
-- Islamic Education Code (sixth grade)
Part A, p. 67-68
September 2000"Oh you who are Jews, if you think that you are favored of Allah, to the exclusion of others. Then long for death if you are truthful. But they will never long for it because of the [deeds] their hands have sent before... as for the death from which you flee, that will surely overtake you..."
-- Passage from Koran
Sixth grade PA textbook, p. 23--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By the time Itamar Marcus sat down at the conference, the attendees were horrified. Arutz-7's Ariela Dworetsky, who attended the conference, reported participants asking questions such as, "In light of these Palestinian goals and truths, how could we ever imagine sharing a lasting peace with them?" and, "With incitement like this, do we have to wonder why there are so many Palestinian volunteers ready to kill themselves in suicide attacks?"The next speaker, Arab Knesset Member Dr. Ahmed Tibi, was expected to argue against the evidence of hatred and incitement that Marcus had just presented - but instead of refuting it on a logical level, Tibi appealed emotionally on behalf of the "poor Palestinian refugees who are being ruthlessly murdered by Israeli soldiers." However, Tibi soon discovered that after close to a year of post-Camp David violence and killing, there isn't much sympathy left for the Arabs even at a public forum in the bastion of the Israeli left - Tel Aviv University. Dr. Tibi was booed repeatedly from start to finish.""
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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Arab Regimes, Not Israel, Are Guilty of Racism
by ThiChi inafter reading some very interesting claims on the last israel/us funding issue, janh started a side point on israels racism and pointed to egypt as an example to follow.
i would like to share this viewpoint: .
arab regimes, not israel, are guilty of racism .
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Arab Regimes, Not Israel, Are Guilty of Racism
by ThiChi inafter reading some very interesting claims on the last israel/us funding issue, janh started a side point on israels racism and pointed to egypt as an example to follow.
i would like to share this viewpoint: .
arab regimes, not israel, are guilty of racism .
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ThiChi
After reading some very interesting claims on the last Israel/Us Funding issue, JanH started a side point on Israel’s “racism” and pointed to Egypt as an example to follow. I would like to share this viewpoint:
Arab Regimes, Not Israel, Are Guilty of Racism
Morton A. Klein
10 September 2001It´s an upside-down world, as the old saying goes. At the conference on racism, in Durban, Arab delegates and their allies accused Israel of racism and human rights violations - yet it is the Arab world that is rife with government-sanctioned racist practices, human rights abuses and mistreatment of women.
Jews are continually victimized by Arab racism. The Palestinian Authority, with the active support of the Arab countries, bombs, shoots, stabs and stones Jews for one reason only - because they are Jews. The PA and the Arab regimes insist that the residents of every Jewish community in Judea, Samaria, Gaza and much of Jerusalem must be expelled, for one reason only - because they are Jews. And Jewish holy sites such as the Tomb of Joseph and Jericho´s ancient Shalom al-Yisrael synagogue have been destroyed by the Palestinian Arabs for one reason - because they are Jewish.
Anti-Jewish racism is the theme of the culture of hatred and violence that is promoted in Arafat´s official media, school text books ("One must beware of the Jews, for they are treacherous and disloyal," according to the text Islamic Education for Ninth Grade), speeches by PA officials and sermons by PA-appointed clergymen (in one recent sermon, "Allah decreed that in our lives, we are to humiliate the Jews sooner or later...the Jews are the enemies of Islam"). In PA summer camps, Arab children are taught how to slit the throats of Jews. Rabbi Eric Yoffie, leader of Reform Judaism, recently denounced the PA´s "neo-Nazi language" and warned that the PA is raising an entire generation of children to hate and murder Jews, for one reason only - because they are Jews.
Black Africans are also the victims of Arab racism. The Arab government of Sudan, for example, sponsors militias that massacre and enslave blacks. The Arab government of Mauritania likewise permits blacks to be enslaved.
Christians, too, are systematically persecuted by the Moslem regimes. U.S. courts have even granted asylum to Palestinian Arab Christian refugees on the grounds that they would be oppressed if they return to the PA areas. In PA-controlled Bethlehem, Muslim mistreatment of Christians has caused a steady stream of emigration, with the city´s Christian population having dwindled from 80% to just 20%. U.S. Senator Connie Mack and a delegation of Zionist Organization of America leaders met in 1999 with Palestinian Arab Christians who described, first hand, how the PA routinely harasses Christians, arrests them on false charges and prohibits them from building or renovating churches. Christian cemeteries are frequently desecrated by Palestinian Arab Muslims.
The Coptic Christians in Egypt are subjected to government-sanctioned discrimination in employment and university admissions, as well as occasional massacres by Muslim terrorist groups. The Maronite Christians of Lebanon have been slaughtered and suppressed by Yasir Arafat´s terrorists and the Syrian Army. Saudi Arabia prohibits Christian worship and even objected to crosses being worn by the American soldiers who defended Saudi Arabia against Iraqi aggression during the 1991 Gulf War.
While the Arabs falsely accuse Israel of human rights violations, in fact such violations are rampant throughout the Arab world. Torture of political detainees is "widespread" throughout the Arab world, according to a July 2001 report by the Cairo-based Arab Organization for Human Rights. The PA itself has tortured to death at least 16 Palestinian Arab dissidents. In addition to torturing prisoners, the Arab regimes engage in "repression of peaceful protest, massive arrests, restriction of freedom of the press, closure of newspapers and detention and imprisonment of journalists."
Not one Arab regime has a free press. Not one Arab regime has free, democratic elections. Not one Arab regime permits complete freedom of speech. Convicted criminals are routinely subjected to cruel and unusual punishment in the Arab world. In Saudi Arabia and Libya, thieves are punished by having one hand cut off. Public whippings or beatings are common in many Arab countries.
The treatment of women in the Arab world is likewise appalling. In Egypt, Jordan, Yemen and Palestinian Authority areas, women suspected of violating Muslim fundamentalism´s moral code are often murdered by relatives seeking to avenge their "shame." Such "honor killings," as they are known, "are regarded with leniency by the law" in PA territories, according to Daoud Kuttab, a prominent Palestinian Arab journalist.
Throughout the Arab world, women are routinely treated as second-class citizens or worse. In Saudi Arabia, women are prohibited by law from driving cars. The Palestinian Arab newspaper Jerusalem Times recently reported that sexual harassment of women in the PA territories is worse than in many other parts of the world, because of "the wide spread of the phenomenon, the lack of laws against it, and the feebleness with which laws that do exist are implemented."
Throughout the Arab world "workers face serious violations of internationally recognized worker and trade union rights," the Jewish Labor Committee reports. For example, unions are illegal in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Oman; collective bargaining is prohibited in Libya, Iraq, Somalia and Yemen; and taking part in a strike is punishable by death in Sudan.
Yes, racism and human rights abuses are terrible problems in the Middle East - not in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, but in Gaza, Amman, Cairo and Damascus. It´s time for the leaders of all civilized countries to speak out about where the real racism is to be found - in the Arab world.
History:"""Jewish Resistance to Invaders
It is this land which the Romans, incensed by the fury of the Jewish resistance to their oppressive rule, later (135 B.C.E.) called Palestina, an illegal imposition by a foreign power, derived from the Philistine Indo-Europeans of Aegean origin who settled in the southwest maritime plain of Canaan and, after their defeat by King David around 1000 B.C.E., eventually disappeared. Thereafter, the Romans and succeeding invaders destroyed and obliterated this land so that for almost two millennia there could have been -- and was -- no "Palestine" or "Palestinian" identity.
With the Arab conquest, the Roman-Byzantine province of Palestine, by then fragmented, further degenerated into the Junds of Filastin and Urdun, mere subdivisions within the wider domains of the Damascan Caliphate. Filastin was, therefore, never a country but the fading vestiger of its Judean precursor and generated no corresponding identity. Following the Crusaders, even these shadowy descriptions disappeared as the area was repeatedly invaded and further fragmented into subdistricts now identified only by the sub-capitals from which they were ruled. The manner of its division and rule under the Ottoman Turks shows that by then this region had ceased to play any distinguishing role in the life and culture of the Arab-Islamic world.
During these sterile centuries, the Land of Israel/Palestine persisted only as an abstract Judeo-Christian concept -- the subliminal image of its Jewish past. Even the Arabs have confirmed this truth, not least by their hostility to the creation of Mandated Palestine in what, for them, had become merely a southern part of Syria. Ironically, this mandate for regenerating the Jewish homeland, provides even for the PLO the only real definition of Palestine in their history. In short, the Jewish homeland was destroyed almost from the moment that it was called Palestine, so that Palestine never became an established reality. All this leads to three conclusions of paramount importance:
1. The Jewish homeland is the first and only indigenous, self-defined entity to have emerged in a region which otherwise was merely an arena for conflict, or within the subject domain of foreign powers. This entity is uniquely rooted in Jewish national history, which constitutes the very essence of its being. Indeed, the case for Zionism is not that Jews are justified to a "homeland in Palestine," but rather that Palestine's reconstitution is itself justified primarily by the Jews' right to recover their homeland.
2. As the Peel Commission observed, "Palestine had dropped out of history," so that the Palestine Mandate did not preserve an existing entity but, through Zionism, recovered the Jewish homeland from its biblical foundations.
3. The dimensions of this state were expressly designed to reflect this biblical precedent, its only precursor, which at various times had covered both banks of the river Jordan (from the Hebrew "Yored Dan" -- descending from Dan). It therefore emerged as a composite of various configurations induced by internal and external pressures on the Hebrew kingdoms, its actual borders being determined by those of then existing entities.
The False Image
Hence, modern Palestine was created for the Jews, who had never surrendered their title to the land nor ever acquiesced in its foreign domination. Moreover, this Palestine included, for the same historical reasons that justified the Mandate itself, the topographical area of "transjordan," which Britain later caused to be illegally differentiated as the unprecedented Arab state of Jordan. That collective sovereignty in this land (of which "TransJordan" is a natural part as defined by the history of the Jewish nation which gave it birth), is the prerogative of the Jewish people, a truism enshrined in all documents leading to and including the Palestine Mandate.
Unfortunately, revival of the slave name "Palestine" has enabled the creation of a false image. Arabs could never claim Eretz Yisrael but, by portraying its historically disparate peoples as an indigenous nation, they now lay claim to an imagined Arab Palestine. Yet a true nation finds its expression in common ideals, institutions and achievements, for an y evidence of which we would search non-Jewish "Palestine" in vain. A true nation is united by a sense of kinship and a kindred ethos, whose group consciousness has been molded by a common history, culture and tradition, by a common language and common institutions, all of which are distinctive from others among whom, or next to whom, it lives and who are uniquely associated with a particular territory. No Arab "Palestinian" entity qualifies on these terms. No such entity existed or recognized itself or was recognized as such by others. The local non-Jewish population not only failed to achieve their own specific identity, but even failed to contribute to the well-being and preservation of the country pioneered by the Jews. The encapsulation of these peoples within the newly revived Jewish homeland gives them the semblance of a political unity without historical foundation and which they had not previously sought nor claimed.
Due attention to the true historical setting therefore plays a crucial role in correctly appraising and defining the parameters relating to the Arab/Israel conflict and in the search for a solution reflecting the true balance of historical/legal rights to the Land of Israel.""
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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would you take blood?
by master chief inim confused would i take blood if i was about to die and had no other alternative treatment well to me thats allways been a hard one one to answer and people have allways hated witnesses for refusing it or not giving blood to there own kids.you see my mothers due in to hospital on tuesday and having a major operation the problem for her is she is inactive as a jw and has no blood card which is upto date what do you think she should do 1.phone elders 2.trust in jehovah and refuse blood.3if it comes to the worst take blood and live.
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Bless those wrongly shunned
by ThiChi ini passed on this e-mail to a dear jw friend.
joe would keep in contact with me after i da myself, knowing i was not a bad person.
somehow, the elders got wind of our now and then contact and he had to stop under the pain of jw death.
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ThiChi
I passed on this e-mail to a dear JW friend. Joe would keep in contact with me after I DA myself, knowing I was not a “bad” person. Somehow, the elders got wind of our now and then contact and he had to stop under the pain of JW death. I know he will read it.................
Searching the Scriptures Daily - John 16:2
Using Nazarene Commentary 2000-2002©©
[See daily message at bottom of post.]"The [Jews] will expel you [apostles] from the synagogue.¹¹ The hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think they are offering holy worship to The God.²²" [John 16:2 21st Century Version of the Christian Scriptures]
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¹¹ The [Jews] will expel you [apostles] from the synagogue: Or, put you out, excommunicate. Jesus had foretold such difficulties earlier in his Olivet Discourse to four of his apostles. [# Mark 13:9] This has already started. [# John 9:22]
²² Everyone who kills you will think they are offering holy worship to The God: Or, does God's service, offering sacrifices, doing God's pleasure. Sincerity is not enough! When Jesus says "everyone" he refers to religious Jews who were the first to persecute Christians. [# Acts 4$, 5$, 9$] Compare # Acts 8:1; 12:2; 26:11]Dear Friends of the Nazarene -
No one enjoys being cast out as unfit company - particularly by "friends" - for such shunning indicates a rejection and unworthiness to the former fellowship. If one deserves this, then it is fair and must be viewed as godly discipline. However, if it is unjust, politically motivated, or an object lesson in control, then the judgment falls upon those doing the shunning. Many of the prophets of old were so unjustly shunned. Christ experienced the same from the Jewish hierarchy of his time. He told his disciples that some of them would be expelled [unchurched] from the synagogue.
A person can react in one of two ways: stop dead in their tracks toward God; or, move on and through such rejection to a new service to the Nazarene Master. We have suffered no more than our Exemplar, for the prophecies spoke of him, "He was despised, the lowest of men, a man of sorrows, familiar with suffering, one from whom, as it were, we averted our gaze, despised, for whom we had no regard." [Isaiah 53:3 New Jerusalem Bible]
Abba bless those wrongly shunned.
Mark Heber Miller [2-7-2]
www.nazarene-friends.orgTime is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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Genetic evidence for "macroevolution"?
by fodeja infirst genetic evidence uncovered of how major changes.
in body shapes occurred during early animal evolution.
biologists at the university of california, san diego have uncovered the first genetic evidence that explains how large-scale alterations to body plans were accomplished during the early evolution of animals.. in an advance online publication february 6 by nature of a paper scheduled to appear in nature, the scientists show how mutations in regulatory genes that guide the embryonic development of crustaceans and fruit flies allowed aquatic crustacean-like arthropods, with limbs on every segment of their bodies, to evolve 400 million years ago into a radically different body plan: the terrestrial six-legged insects.. the achievement is a landmark in evolutionary biology, not only because it shows how new animal body plans could arise from a simple genetic mutation, but because it effectively answers a major criticism creationists had long leveled against evolutionthe absence of a genetic mechanism that could permit animals to introduce radical new body designs.
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freeman:
Thanks for your thoughts and compassion in this matter. I will freely admit I am dealing with the implications of belief in Evolution. However, I see many viewpoints pro/con regarding evolution that need at least an honest debate. As an example, some are stuck on the computer analogy given, while you can read the example many ways, some here want to only pick the analogy apart, without considering the very powerful facts of the main point. I notice that this tactic is so common with the pro-evolution viewpoints, however, if you add up all the misinformation/mistakes evolution has provided us in the recent past, you can plainly see the double standard.
I am finding that many of the "players" in this field are not forth coming on their findings. Read Forbidden Archeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race. "This book shows that archaeologists and anthropologists, over the past one hundred and fifty years, have accumulated vast amounts of evidence showing that humans like ourselves have existed on this planet for tens of millions of years. We show how this evidence has been suppressed, ignored, and forgotten because it contradicts generally-held ideas about human evolution."
"However, the implications of a deep-rooted belief in Darwinism, the unavoidable practice of peer reviews for scientific journals, the few well-known cases of evidence suppressed or twisted by academic institutions, and the utterly subjective nature of all sciences which pretend to account for our true nature and raison d'être, have given rise to a very heated debate on the possible existence of worldwide conspiracies and powerful groups of mischievous academicians. Such debates, though they must happen, often lead our attention away from the intellectual revision required by discoveries such as those discussed in Cremo and Thompson's "Forbidden Archeology - The Hidden History of the Human Race". Of course, there's no denying that conspiracies and falsifications of History have occurred and may still occur (sometimes even providentially!), but I think readers should be careful not to get caught up too much in the unwholesome anxiety such speculations are prone to produce""
Go to http://www.mcremo.com/index.htm
Who really knows?
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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An Open Letter to Ray Franz
by mikepence in(please reply to this message with your own signature and added thoughts.
then, we will make sure that this reaches ray.).
dear ray,.
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Genetic evidence for "macroevolution"?
by fodeja infirst genetic evidence uncovered of how major changes.
in body shapes occurred during early animal evolution.
biologists at the university of california, san diego have uncovered the first genetic evidence that explains how large-scale alterations to body plans were accomplished during the early evolution of animals.. in an advance online publication february 6 by nature of a paper scheduled to appear in nature, the scientists show how mutations in regulatory genes that guide the embryonic development of crustaceans and fruit flies allowed aquatic crustacean-like arthropods, with limbs on every segment of their bodies, to evolve 400 million years ago into a radically different body plan: the terrestrial six-legged insects.. the achievement is a landmark in evolutionary biology, not only because it shows how new animal body plans could arise from a simple genetic mutation, but because it effectively answers a major criticism creationists had long leveled against evolutionthe absence of a genetic mechanism that could permit animals to introduce radical new body designs.
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SS: Sounds resonable!!
REM:
Can't you do better? Your “Cut & Paste” smoke screen is just that, a smoke screen. Why re-type it? Get to the issues. You make the demand for proof, however, you make the most outlandish claims and "lables" without meeting your own standards of proof. You are very amusing. I give many references to the information for all to research on their own. You can dismiss it with name calling, however, you are not helping your case. But that may be all you can offer.
There are many viewpoints........For the record, I disagree with your viewpoints on this issue, your views are not even in line with most pro-evolution debates on mutations. evolutionist Dr Pierre-Paul Grasse, Europe's most distinguished biologist, is not on your side of this issue. However, it just shows the many sides to what is being called a fact.........
REM: """Every animal existing or that has existed is in transition""
LOL!! Yea, right, like the whales? ho boy, we really got a winner here, folks!ARE MUTATIONS HELPFUL?
Because natural selection can only choose from what is there, evolutionists must have faith that somehow mutations provide the new raw material for living things to evolve into other, more complicated life-forms having new structures and functions.
But this is a blind faith, completely unsupported by the facts. The blueprint of living things earned by DNA is more complicated than the most sophisticated computer program. This blueprint is copied when living things reproduce, and mutations are nothing more or less than chance mistakes during copying.
Can you imagine trying to improve a computer program, to give it new, more complex functions, by relying on copying mistakes?
That's why the thousands of mutations of which we know in the human race are labelled by the diseases they cause. Listen to what the evolutionist Dr Pierre-Paul Grasse, Europe's most distinguished biologist, has to say. He was past president of the French Academy of Sciences, and editor of the prestigious 26-volume Traite de Zoologie'.
'The opportune appearance of mutations permitting animals and plants to meet their needs seems hard to believe. Yet the Darwinian theory is even more demanding: A single plant, a single animal would require thousands and thousands of lucky, appropriate events. Thus, miracles would become the rule: events with an infinitesimal probability could not fail to occur.' -- Pierre-Paul Grass'(University of Paris, past-president French Academie des sciences) in Evolution of Living Organisms, Academic Press. New York, 1977, p. 103.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once - Buckaroo Bonsai
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Why God cannot have existed forever.
by sleepy inwhy god cannot have existed forever.. this is something a friend of mine brought up a number of years ago.at the time i just thought that to understand how a god existed forever was just beyond our little brains.. well now after reading a lot more physics books i think its evidence a god couldn't have existed forever and therefore would had a begining (if there was a god).. basically if god had lived from infinity in the past we wouldn't have been created yet as there would always be forever untill we were created.. do you get that?.
at any point in time we could take, if time went back forever then you could never get to that point in time.
you would always have infinity infront of you.. sorry if this doesn't make much sense as it is not easy to describe.
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Why should we be the only game in town? I am sure we are just a very small part of whatever God does for a living. Also, we are in time right now, no matter who controls it.
I like this quote: “Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.”- Buckaroo Bonsai
Very profound
“We all fell down from the milky way, hanging around here for the judgement day, heaven only knows who’s in command.”- Jimmy Buffet