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  Confessing

  by STRUGGLE in

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  hello, i was reading judical com.

  was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

  some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

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  thinker

  Hey Simon,
  Would you mind if we kept our designations but signed the full name? You know, Thinker and Thinkers Wife. If it is really a problem we can sign up seperately but we have gotten kind of attached.
  One suggestions for the forum set up. Would it be possible to provide a search using a designated name? Or would that be too complicated? Just a thought.
  In retrospect, it would be nice to have our names designated as Thinker and Thinkers Wife at the left top corner. So give us the dirt. How to do?
  Thinkers Wife
  P.S. We would also like to know how everyone does that fancy little trick of putting quotes from other posts in lines seperating them from the body of the posts. Help us silly little new people please.
  Thinkers Wife
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  Confessing

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i was reading judical com.

  was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

  some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

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  thinker

  Struggle,
  While my husband was writing his feelings and advice a thought came to me.
  My advice would be to do what he suggested before reading this passage in the Bible. And when you do read it really read it and think about what it means. Read the feelings and the flavor. Savor it and allow your mind to absorb it.
  1Timothy 2:1-7
  Would love to know your musings if you would like to share.
  Thinkers Wife
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  Confessing

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i was reading judical com.

  was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

  some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

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  thinker

  Struggle,
  I've been looking for an opportunity to explain my own personal beliefs about God. This seems as good a time as any. My wife (above) is the one with the witness experience.
  I was raised a Catholic, parents divorced when I was 8 (big no-no for Catholics). For a long time I didn't really think much about God. As I got older and life got really hard I started praying, mostly because I was in a tough spot and didn't know where else to turn. I didn't agree with any organized religion's beliefs and felt God would hear me even though I wasn't what you would call "religious".
  Well, it worked. I didn't ask Him for any particular outcome (assuming He knows more than me), I just asked for help. Nothing happened overnight, but I did feel that a burden was lifted and I was much more at ease about my troubles. I feel God entered my heart and helped guide my life. I made a note to myself to thank Him when good things happened. (I didn't want to be one of those who only came calling when I wanted something.)
  I can't say I really understand the need for organized religion, since I've experienced God on a personal level. Is it so hard to believe that God would enter our life and help guide us, just by asking?
  I believe God wants a personal relationship with EACH one of us individually and that relationship may be different for each of us. Just like a parent loves all his kids, but may have very different relationships with each one.
  Personally, I get amused by all the discussion about scripture and translations. I feel the best source is to talk to the Author. If you look in the Bible, you'll see at the beginning of many chapters these words: "the gospel ACCORDING TO ..." Why not ask the main source (God)? For all we know God might have wanted to revise a few things in the last 2000 years.
  So, my advise is talk to God, one-on-one. I believe He's listening to you just as much as He is to the Pope, the GB or anyone else. I know it's worked for me.

  Thinker
  (Hope this doesn't confuse you. My wife and I post under the same handle.)
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  Confessing

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
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  hello, i was reading judical com.

  was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

  some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

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  thinker

  Dear Struggle,
  First of all may I ask why you must break it off with this gentleman? If there are truly feelings between you, why not allow things to take their course. I for one certainly would not want to throw away a truly worthwhile relationship, they are not easy to find. If this is a love relationship then I would seriously consider where you want to be in the future. Will you be able to replace this with something better? Can you see yourself with this man long term? Once you determine those things, then you will better be able to analyze what you truly feel and want. This should be aside from everything else. Listen to your inner voice.
  As for the question. This is a toughy. To be honest, I went through the comittee meeting, thinking I was truly "repentent". I made it for five months, and then went right back into the situation that got me in the back room in the first place. Maybe I wouldn't have had to go through all the guilt and heartache, if I had just allowed them to disfellowship me the first time around.
  Finally, Struggle, figure out what it is that YOU really want. Don't allow fear of reprocussions make you do something you don't really want to do in your heart. Even if you are df'ed, life will go on. Really. (I am not df'ed, different standing)
  Thinkers Wife

  Edited by - thinker on 28 December 2000 7:2:58
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  Starting a band

  by TR in

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  i've been toying with the thought of starting a band.

  so far it's a one-man band, for i know few in the music world where i live.

  what i want to do is purchase a mixer so i can edit my own bass, drum and guitar tracts.

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  thinker

  "It doesn't mean much, it doesn't mean anything at all, the life I have left behind me is a cold room. I've crossed the last line from where I can't return where every step I took in faith betrayed me and led me from my home..."
  Sarah McLachlan
  Sweet Surrender
  Thinker
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  Starting a band

  by TR in

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  2. entertainment

  i've been toying with the thought of starting a band.

  so far it's a one-man band, for i know few in the music world where i live.

  what i want to do is purchase a mixer so i can edit my own bass, drum and guitar tracts.

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  thinker

  "If you're in you're in if you're out, you're not"
  OMC
  Thinkers Wife
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  Judicial Committee Meetings

  by Pathofthorns in

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  i saw this interesting post on h20.

  most publishers are unaware how things really work many times in the back room of a kingdom hall.

  sure there are lenient elders, many do try to show mercy.

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  thinker

  Actually the verse is in the NWT, I looked it up this morning. But as I said in my earlier post it is set apart from the rest of the chapter. I remember reading years ago that the manuscripts did not all agree, so they put it in, but set it apart so that it would stand out. As I recall, that particular passage also talks about being bitten by poisonous snakes and living, which snake handling religions use to back up their practices.
  TW
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  Confessing

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i was reading judical com.

  was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

  some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

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  thinker

  Struggle,
  Been there and done that. No good advice was forthcoming on how to handle feelings once they have already developed.
  Do think for yourself. If you feel you can go on without telling, you might be better off.
  It all depends on where you want to be.
  For myself, it may have been better to go through the break (at their discretion) than to have had to go all the heartache later.
  Really the ball is in your park. Only do what your heart really tells you to do.
  Thinkers Wife
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  Why do they have clothes on?

  by Simon in

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  just a thought.... in most of the publications that have pictures of people in the new order / new system / paradise earth - why do they have clothes on?

  not only that, but they usually wear their national costumes !.

  i guess the practical reason is that if everyone was naked then the watchtower would be classed as soft-porn and could only be sold from top shelves.... anyone have any thoughts on this?

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  thinker

  Hmmm, Simon how you do make me think. I thought we were going to be naked too. I don't know why everyone is dressed.
  TW
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  new here..want to say hi

  by crittersitter in

  1. jw
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  just want to say hello, am so glad to find others like myself, no longer a jw, but still lovin god in spite of being killed in armageddon, and having family shun me.

  when i was a party girl and had no spiritual desires, there was always a chance that i'd "see the light" and go back to jdub land, but since i have become a (dare i say it???)......

  a plain old gospel reading christain...i am lower than dirt..apostate scum...buzzard snack(when jehovah kills me during the trib).

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  thinker

  To each his own. Isn't that what it is all about?
  TW