"a helping hand".
a young girl, dressed in her kingdom halls' best was running.
as fast as she could to the kingdom hall down the street.. as she ran, she prayed, "jehvoah , please don't let me be.
UBDJUDGE,
Explain the different species among humankind. What species of human am I?
Tell us what is the difference between people of Norway and people of India. Are they the same species, race, different or what? If we share a common language group are we the same species, race, ethnic group or what?
I'd love to have your insight on this.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i dont know if anyone else here has read this weeks (4/16/01) copy of newsweek.
there is a major article on the growth of christianity in south america, asia and in particular africa.
many of the christian sects bear little resemblance to conservative western churches but are very evangelical, charismatic with often a blend of local spiritual beliefs added to traditional christian dogma and centered around a local spiritual leader.
Larc,
I said that as well.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i dont know if anyone else here has read this weeks (4/16/01) copy of newsweek.
there is a major article on the growth of christianity in south america, asia and in particular africa.
many of the christian sects bear little resemblance to conservative western churches but are very evangelical, charismatic with often a blend of local spiritual beliefs added to traditional christian dogma and centered around a local spiritual leader.
Flip,
You are quite right.
I have read another former JW explain that in Latin America many JW converts are attracted to the religion because of the American and hence "wealth" association. People will believe anything, even mistaken beliefs (translation/ communication difficulties) just to be a part.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i dont know if anyone else here has read this weeks (4/16/01) copy of newsweek.
there is a major article on the growth of christianity in south america, asia and in particular africa.
many of the christian sects bear little resemblance to conservative western churches but are very evangelical, charismatic with often a blend of local spiritual beliefs added to traditional christian dogma and centered around a local spiritual leader.
Larc,
The WTS growth rate might be equal to if not better than general Christianity in some areas. However, in terms of numbers, the increase according to Newsweek suggests a dramatic change in the Christian population. From its graphs:
Latin America 250 million to 475 million (1970 to 2000).
Asia <100 million to +300 million (1970 to 2000)
Africa 110 million to +320 million (1970 to 2000)
I don't think the WTS can claim anything special about its growth compared to these figures. If anything "Jehovah is speeding it up" everywhere and the WTS only gets the crumbs.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i was intersted in what brought "you" out.. with me it was the 607 bce thing.
i always followed the org and would have died for it but when i saw the fallacy of the 607 date that blew it for me.
i am now on a quest to try and find something to feel comfortable with.
There were lots of little things for me but the 1995 change in the Generation teaching tipped the scales and all my doubts came together.
When I investigated my religion I had problems with 607 BC and thus 1914. Once that is questioned the whole authority of the WTS as the faithful slave is questionable. I had long had problems with the blood tenet and reading more in 1996 convinced me the WTS was wrong on that also. I had long believed that life on Earth was a result of evolution, perhaps God directed. When I read criticism of the "Creation" book I knew then that resorting to dishonesty was not an indentifier of the true religion. All these made me quit the JW's altogether.
Going back a little further, in January 1995 I stepped down as an elder. I had in three years seen the manipulation, in-fighting and lack of love. When I saw the covering up of wrong doing I decided I couldn't belong to that elder body. I was not alone in stepping down, another elder came to the same decision. He wrote his resignation letter a few days after me. I left the area (and country) five months later. I thought a new start would help me. It didn't. I looked at things from a different perspective, I was now critical of both the WTS teachings and elders in the congregation. By the time the Watchtower on the generation change came out I had had about enough. I was inactive by then but continued to attend meetings. My last meeting was Memorial night 1997.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i dont know if anyone else here has read this weeks (4/16/01) copy of newsweek.
there is a major article on the growth of christianity in south america, asia and in particular africa.
many of the christian sects bear little resemblance to conservative western churches but are very evangelical, charismatic with often a blend of local spiritual beliefs added to traditional christian dogma and centered around a local spiritual leader.
I don’t know if anyone else here has read this week’s (4/16/01) copy of Newsweek. There is a major article on the growth of Christianity in South America, Asia and in particular Africa. Many of the Christian sects bear little resemblance to conservative Western Churches but are very evangelical, charismatic with often a blend of local spiritual beliefs added to traditional Christian dogma and centered around a local spiritual leader. The growth in some countries is phenomenal with increases well over 100% in the past 20 years.
My thought on this; the WTS growth in recent years is coming mainly from third world countries. The third world country growth for JW’s is slower than that of general Christianity. The WTS losing out in those countries too, not just the West. The article in Newsweek suggests that the religious growth in third world countries can be attributed to some degree to association of western religion with the religion of the world’s greatest power – the United States of America. Even worse for the WTS, an American religion, that it can’t get converts as fast as general western Christianity.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
i was wondering about this part written in the.
w. 15.02.2001 page 29 (box) :.
...related to this, christian should avoid putting onto, or downloading.
Uh hmmm,
Just one other point about copyright. Doesn't the WTS freely and liberally quote other publications usually without accurate reference to the source? They also use a whole range of photos (with credit) available from such organizations as the US Army, UN, WHO...all organizations under the control of "Satan". Maybe Satan's stuff is OK to copy!
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
hi everyone.. i have just got back to england after a four week sd course at brooklyn.
during the course we got a look at the manuscript of the new unnamed ks01 elders manual, this time instead of just 3 chapters covering jc's there will be 7 covering everything you can think of and more.
the book will be released to all serving travelling overseers and service deck personnel in aug 01 and all elders in dec01 at the kms .. as soon as i receive mine in aug i will download any relevant points.
I am interesting in seeing how quickly the "Secret" book makes it to the Internet. (I guess mid-August)
7 whole chapters on JC's! Probably subdivided the section dealing with the differences between momentary touching, (bad) casual fondling (very bad) and full blown groping(supervery bad).
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
Farkel,
I'm not sure what part God played in making cats. But I do know that our cat thinks she's God.
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
yup, it's me, your friendly angel of the presence and.
purveyor of mystic speculations, metatron, at your.
service.
Hi Metatron,
Welcome to the board, good to have you aboard.
Welcome BlueSaph (Bin) too. How's your sister doing, is she still in?
Thirdson
'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
