this issue has already furnished a couple of threads, but the cover picture really has haunted my mind since i saw it .. a vivid red border bears the big title "child prostitution a tragic reality" .
it is a monochrome image a little girl ,pre teen age.
she looks asian and is garishly clothed in a printed dress.
We have to remember that the publisher's of the Awake teach that the real solution to child prositituon, as well as child labor, child malnutrition, disease etc, is for their God to kill all the suffering children without any chance of future life, and all because their parents are going to die too. Try asking the next JW peddling magazines to provide an explanation about what their "good news" really means.
Thirdson
tonight i watched the movie about a boy with hugh grant.
there was a scene where he was having christmas dinner with a bunch of friends and they were sitting around the table wearing paper crowns.
my kids get a paper crown at school on their birthday but i suspect around first grade they won't be doing that anymore.
Hi Stephanus,
I can pick and choose. Even as a J-Dub I enjoyed Christmas, the extended holiday period between Christmas and New Year and the TV specials and the first run movies (even enduring the Queen's speach while waiting for the movie to start at 3:15) . In more recent years with the advent of Video, there aren't many films worth watching that we haven't seen at the theater or on video already. That probably contributes to the view expressed by many corresponants to the BBC news web site that British TV over Christmas was crap. US TV is just as bad and I didn't watch any TV on Christmas day last year. Christmas is totally different for me now.
I still think the best Christmas we had when I was a JW was the Christmas Day we spent at Christies Beach SA, 1970.
Thirdson
i'm learning all sorts of fascinating things here.
recently i've noticed a lot of people making reference to four-door cars as being the only ones approved by jws.
is this for real?
Being English I owned several two door cars including an original Mini (and saying two doors on a Mini is being very generous). No one ever commented on my choice of car. I knew an elder who used to use his Lotus and later his Porche for FS and we used to complain that it didn't look very good parking that type of car in some council estate (public housing). However, field service, even in rural territory is done differently in the UK compared to the US. (OK my experience of FS in the USA is very limited because I quickly went inactive after my move). Quite frequently in my UK experience (30 years or so), we walked from the home where we met for FS to the territory. FS meant walking door to door often, literally, steping from one door step to the next and not returning to the car until we had finished for the morning. On one occasion while working a terrace (town homes), because I didn't wait long enough, I had two householders come to two doors at the same time and had to speak to both.
I thought FS in the UK was inefficient, with long periods spent chatting whist stood at doors where people were obviously not home, and extremely slow walking (the pioneer plod) between homes. In middle class suburban America the density of housing is considerably less than the UK and FS, done in groups from cars, is even less efficient especially when working not at homes. It takes 6 people to make a call, 2 to knock the door and 4 to sit in the car.
Thus, you can see why four-door cars are an advantage. However, 4 doors on a Mini still doesn't help get six people inside.
Thirdson
PS A month ago I spotted an original Austin Mini (with for sale notice) in the parking lot of my local Home Depot. I spoke to owner, he wanted $4000 for a 20 year old car. I told him I once bought a 12 year old mini for $800, drove it for 2 years, put 40,000 miles on the clock and sold it for $600. It was the least expensive motoring I ever experienced.
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tonight i watched the movie about a boy with hugh grant.
there was a scene where he was having christmas dinner with a bunch of friends and they were sitting around the table wearing paper crowns.
my kids get a paper crown at school on their birthday but i suspect around first grade they won't be doing that anymore.
R,
I've introduced party hats, via Christmas crackers, to my new family in the US. Two years ago I bought some English made crackers from a local store and this past Christmas I bought some imported from Canada (Quebec actually and the jokes were all about the English). We all wore the party hats after groaning at the awful jokes (although I did learn an Elephant joke I had not heard before). The other English tradition we enjoy (well I do) is Christmas pudding and Scully on this board helped me find a source in the US for imported English foods. The last time I visited my old home town I bumped in to a JW acquaitance whilst shopping in Tescos and choosing Christmas puddings to return to the US with.
The strange thing is, I never, ever, celebrated Christmas when I lived in England. Now I want to enjoy the traditions and customs of my former home even though I have no experience of them.
Regards,
Thirdson
just out of curiosity, now that it's been 6 weeks since we had our visit from the elders..... how many of us have been called on by the elders??
what have been the results of the visit?.
love, scully
No one's called me. It's early days yet, don't they have till March to call on all the inactives?
I haven't attended a meeting in nearly 6 years and I moved house 5 1/2 years ago. I am listed in the phone book and at least one elder knows I live in the locality because his son attends school with my son.
I am quite prepared and have a copy of the letter sent to all BOEs to reference.
Thirdson
anybody go to the assemblies in dudley ?!?!.
its just around the corner but its the first time i won't be going and i dont feel any guilt about it !!!.
hahahaha!!.
I used to attend Dudley until about 8 years ago. I was there at the dedication weekend in the mid 70s. The balcony was always hot and stuffy in the afternoon and combined with the boring program caused much drowsiness.
The town of Dudley must do a roaring trade at the weekend, especially the fast-food places after the "simplification." I know my ex-wife liked to spend Saturday afternoons shopping and skipped most of the PM program.
Thirdson
troubled by reports of the very problems that were supposed to be only the mark of false religions peadophilia (and hiding it) and hypocrisy (supporting the un) many honest hearted jws, it seems, have slowed down their meeting attendance and field ministry.
what has the society done to calm these very real worries concerning actual, not imagined, problems.. .
simple.
To me the Catholic church is facing heavier "persecution" in the media and the courts. In Watchtower logic that must mean that the Roman Catholic church is the true religion.
Thirdson
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i changed my question to this: .
what nice biblical name would you give your child, and what was the ugliest biblical name you ever heard a witness give to his child?edited by - jh on 18 january 2003 12:3:36.
Since you changed the question, I'd better change my answer.
I didn't intend to give my son Biblical names. He has an old Saxon name as a first name and a Greek name for his middle, although that name appears in the Bible. He is named after a famous actor; not that I liked the actor but liked the name. The middle name was from a friend.
I knew a JW who wanted to name his first kid Maher-shalal-hash-baz. My dad talked him out of it. ("Think about what he'd face at school," he said.)
Thirdson
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yesterday on i-95,the most " sudden kind of death " occurred.three young yale students were killed at 5:00 am when their suv slammed into a tractor trailer that had itself crashed earlier.. the college dean,richard brodhead told about 400 students,faculty and staff that the accident was "the most sudden kind of death".. he went on to say,"we learn by the time we are 3 or 4 years old that humans are not supposed to live forever.. were you, aware at 3 or 4 years of age, that humans are not supposed to live forever?what was the earliest age that you can recall being aware of death and when did you start to think that humans are not supposed to live forever as the dean expressed to the 400 students,faculty and staff members.. my own memories go back as far as about 3 or 4 years of age when our house was on fire and i was wakened out of my sleep in the middle of the night by a fireman who saved my life.
blueblades.
My earliest memories are when I was 2 years and 8 months old. I remember a number of separate events, (one traumatic at least to a two year old) that happened at the time my one younger brother (Fourthson) was born (Feb 7, 1963).
When I was four our next-door neighbor died. She was my mom's best friend and was always round at our house. I only have the vaguest memory of what she looked like from one event. I do remember the shock of the time when another neighbor knocked on the door to tell us what had happened and I remember the ambulance outside our house. The neighbor died leaving her husband to care for their two preteen (one may have been a teenager, I don't remember). She died in her sleep of a brain hemorrhage and I guess she was in her mid to late 30's.
I knew from that age that people die. I knew people died and were buried in the ground just like our pets died and were buried in the backyard. However, I didn't think I was going to die ever, I didn't think my parents would die either. We were all going to to enter the New System sometime in the 1970s and I wouldn't even have to finish school. It took a long time for that childhood delusion to go away.
Thirdson
ok guys, .
i know you know what i'm talking about.. what was the funniest comment you heard from the audience during a study where the brother or sister used their comment as as platform to counsel the elders..
In one congregation I attended, the Watchtower conductor was notorious for going over time, frequently taking an hour an 10 minutes to complete the study (songs excluded). During a service meeting item on meeting quality and the like this same elder, covering the KM item, commented on how the brothers conducting meeting assignments must be careful about keeping to time, whereupon there was a loud clearing of throats by nearly everyone in the congregation. Said elder looked really shocked but he got the message, at least for a while.
Thirdson
