bobcat: yes parallels. they would kill dissenters like Jesus, the caroenter from Galilei, but make sure there is free access to the contribution boxes and the there is CORBAN mark 7:11. read: -- dont support the family that nourished you, give all to the latter day Org. ---the widows mite for the doomed enterprise of the last temple worship generation.
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A thought
by turtleturtle ina thought regarding a recent public talk i heard:.
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if christians are truly supposed to be odedient & faithful in all things (to the organization), because jah has always used an organization, then shouldn't the jews around jesus days have done the same thing towards the sanhedrin/priests (even though they were corrupt)?.
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Was jehovah/yahweh/god the first to commit an abortion?!
by OneDayillBeFree injust caught this in today's watchtower!
while the wtb&ts is going on about all of david's sins and how god was being a "god of love" and showing forgiveness to his servants, (keyword: his= only jehovah's witnesses) i decided to go ahead and start reading the whole story about what really happened.
so then i stumbled upon 2 samuel 12:15&18 .
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WT leaders see themselfs as bigger than life characters and aspire to greatness like their OT heroes. Also they must be aware of the serious charges that will be brought against them, and hope that the "David and the ladies" precedents they are harping on again and again will result in clemency for them. Or the fact that they understand that their actions will result in thousands of casualties among their followers too-and blaming that on "God"
jwop: a good partial analysis of all that went wrong. but the whole affair would also sound plausible without references what "--God-- decided--", or "---God could have damned the baby by ending the pregnancy any time--"
fact: child survival rates were low in the past, miscarriages frequent, even today.
The brothers Grimm are not the only ones telling grim stories.
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just a question: has anybody answered the question why Jesus the Christ is called the son of MAN when Joseph was not involved? why marys' geneology is ended in a male ancestor? MAN like in mankind?
designs: that is why Catholics prefer to pray to Mary, she is nicer than the both of them. The saints are or will be in gods nature too, immortal . all 144 000 of them.
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they will not respond - , be blind to to verse 7 that teaches:"--it is not given to you to understand times and seasons---" proven true by by WT BtS history, but use verse 8 to capture and drive the slaves into frenzied activity.
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SPURIOUS TEACHING!!
by The Searcher inthe spurious teaching that a person's own death wipes out all their sins - based on the ludicrous assertion that romans 6:7 is meant literally!
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(bogof).
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of course its bread and butter for the WT BtS, since they repeat the oldest lie: You will never die even at armageddon, never pay with your personal death, so you need the ORG to live. because jesus is not the mediator of the survivors.
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A thought experiment about what it means "to be" GOD
by Terry inall believers in god begin with the premise that he is the creator.. but-stop!.
go back one step.
what about before god was a creator.. creation is the "beginning" for the created--but--not for god.. .
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terry, you said: if time were real it would move in more than one directions --- it does not. ----well:
Time must be real because we can really measure that we really move THROUGH it.
We move in one direction, because we are imbedded in 3D space that moves through time since the expansion through time began in/at the Big bang.
If the energy* could be sucked out of the universe, it would contract, moving back in time. but it would not be like running a film backward, for the past is gone, only the messages, pictures, fossils of the past you might call them, are still traveling through space. Our future now, at the present, looks cooler, the future in a shrinking universe would look warmer. it would become more cramped. in a shrinking universe we would be travelling the other way, but clocks would still advance (in the model of the expanding/deflating balloon.)
The big crunch would be at/in the same place in stationary time where the Big Bang was.
it would MEAN that the Creator (if any) does not move through time # and would receive a big return of energy in the BIG CRUNCH.
* Jas. 1:17
# Isaiah 40:26 bible references only to cite precedent without endorsing the rest of the talking snake, flooded everest tale.
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What are your reasons for posting here?
by sonnyboy ini'm curious as to what drives some people to post at certain boards.. for me, i first came here over a year ago thinking this was a pro-jw site, ready to jump on the dubs.
lol.
little did i know.... i posted here exclusively for a while, but then found that the repetitive topics became tedious.
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search for truth and to have like-minded people stimulate my mind. I am a survivor and do not need support, but like to be helped along in the search for truth. I find the discussion here that is absent and impossible in all but one KH I attended. I am impressed and overwhelmed by some of the knowledge displayed here, but am lost when things get too detailed and personal. a truly great place to participate.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 01-13-2013 WT Study (LESSER ONE)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 01-13-2013 wt study (november 15, 2012, pages 15-19)(lesser one).
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=w&yearfilter=2012.
review comments will be headed by comments.
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there is a saying that in every organisation everyone rises into the position at least one notch above their competancy, skill level. So, perhaps if they all just stepped down, the wts problems would be solved. but the upward mobility potential keeps them going.
the least of the lesser ones.
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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.
by okage ini feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .
to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.
but that's not our goal.
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Surely, some here have been organized to the point of bringing up and would not want to start down that road again. I was caught up once with a brick in my hand in a crowd, mob, that targeted commie buildings and russian tanks. never again. the thing collapsed later on its own. why be martyrs?-- will not the "axed" Rev.20:4 martyrs be the 144 000?--- look up Gamaliel's wise counsel.
--- peace (and security.)
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What are married women called who attend pioneer school?
by usualusername inmany many many years ago i attended the pioneer and have just recalled that the married sisters were listed on paper as mr jane doe (mrs) or something peculiar like that.. .
is that custom still followed?.
uun .
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adressing sisters, if married, by their husbands name would be appropriate. At pioneer school in bethel even that would not protect them from being propositioned though,
Adressing the husband /elder of the ueber-elderette* by her maiden last name would be truthful and funny.
*see original Organisation chart on page 11316.