The new arrivals are done right, already have permanent residence status upon landing, right to work, more like regular immigrants, granted entry by jumping the que because their dire need. It is hard to draw parallels between the arrival of the white colonizers/ conquistadors to the massive wave of mono-religionists now. Experiences from Europe have shown it is not all positive, Rotherham vs Residential Schools?
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Dear Syrian Refugees
by Simon inwelcome to canada from one immigrant to another !.
calgary is welcoming it's first refugees from syria and iraq so tomorrow i'm going to take all the winter clothing that we have and donate it to a women / children's charity.
it's not much (well, actually, it's a huge pile ... everything from when we first moved over!
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OK friends lets be honest, if a Nuclear Holocaust took place today how many of you would return to the KH?
by James Mixon inspeaking for my self, no way in hell.. this question to see if you really have been deprogramed,.
do you 100% believe it is not the truth.. a fourth of the world hit by a nuclear attack..
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If a nuclear holocaust, (or any other kind) took place today (took = past tense) Then the bible is proven wrong again ( god did not destroy those destroying the Earth). proves that the wt Bible tracts are wrong too. but I know this, so I must be alive, perhaps spirit now, or a species like the 3 Hebrews in the fire. and I survived outside the hall unlike the Philippinos. unlikely, all of it. -
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Am I recalling this correctly? Ray Franz depicted in WT as dying at Armageddon?
by freddo ini seem to recall years ago that someone posted some watchtower "art" with a typical wiping out the wicked at armageddon scene - you know, city blocks crashing to the ground - guy with a gun, cars falling into crevices, and there was a middle aged guy with his eyeglasses/spectacles hanging off his face led dead in the foreground.. it was suggested that in this was supposed to be ray franz.
not in words but in what the character drawn looked like.
a sort of sick "in-joke" for schroeder and jaracz worshippers in the writing department.. am i dreaming this?
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Since Ray Franz must have been of the partakers, depicting him as dead would be scripturally correct, according to the latest "generation" light of the wt.
Since all the "anointed" are raptured at that time, will not survive Armageddon, will pass away, why not picture their death?
BSW, "Jesus" said the generation will not pass away. will survive. wt wrong, again, what else is new?
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What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?
by minimus ini say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.
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There just has been a landmark German court case, brought by an unemployed migrant with several children who has won the right to receive full lifetime benefits, because he lived 6 month in that country just "looking for work". This is a dangerous precedent, neighbouring countries will lose (and are losing) large portions of their most fertile citizen. clever and free ambulance chasing lawyers in Canada too can take such cases all the way to the top cort, challenging the very legislations that threatens their base. -
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What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?
by minimus ini say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.
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V:-""-Yeah, that's not true. a good point, the country in particular should have been mentioned, in the case, Canada. I have seen a "refugee" claimant standing on the American side of the yellow line at a border crossing, and a lawyer already present to get him to have his shout of "refugee" recognized to cross that painted border line. It will take years to remove frivolous claimants; cheaper to just pay the benefits, that over all exceed Canadian senior low income help. Germany, that you cite. a different system, more rigid, but generous for all comers. and in both countries a major organized crime problems* replicating conditions these migrants fled from. Generous countries importing the troubles of the world, and financing it. Politics gone wrong. Making a mockery of the legal immigration process
* not stopping at blowing planes out of the sky, notorious gang wars, honor killings.
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Twelve Days of Evolution - A video a Day
by cofty infrom the guys and girls at "it's ok to be smart".. stay curious!.
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How do creationists explain infanticide? --for the jw creationist kind, It's satan's fault. Perhaps A&E had a daughter too, timed between the boys, and the real reason Abel got killed by Cain was that he wanted to keep his genes moving forward. -
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Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?
by careful ini've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.
but one thing i've noticed that the org.
has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.
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DNcall "-- It's like shooting pool with a rope." I can not see how to bridge that gap across to the new generation. When I feel about heavenly music I trend toward Bach, but great melodies were written in the last 75 years, For some reason the wt retains melodies that were inspired by the dire conditions in the KZ camps, out-stubborning the SS guards musically. This might presage things to come for jws, but sometimes it seems that these ugly marches, minor key hymns are designed to condition, to harden the r&f for the things to come, fall in line for this. Can there be melodies written for the young that will generate the awe of the classics? -
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Blatant Lie, or Unwitting Contradiction?
by OneFingerSalute injust a comment here about the idiocy of this mornings wt.. in one paragraph that was yapping about faith and prayer the writers made the statement that faith could be shown by praying for material things, not just spiritual things.
they used the "give us this day our daily bread" quote.. a couple paragraphs later they said prayers are only answered if they were in harmony with god's will.. so i guess it is god's will that my frail very elderly parents are virtually ignored by the congregation they are in.
i guess it is god's will that after over 135 years combined time in duh troof between them they are kicked to the curb, accused of being selfish, unloving and they are laughed at and ridiculed by the eldurrs, the eldurrs families, and sheeple in general because of the frailties of old age.. they (that congregation) will be damned by god for their cruelty..
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$13 "--This work requires that we have faith in God’s timing of the coming end of this system of things, believing that “it will not be {too} late!” [Hab. 2:3)] One way to measure--"
Hope not to derail, --I was struck by the statement above, tying faith to the dating attempts of the wt, and faith is expressed by the measure of service to proclaim the end comings soon, (but really around 2075, if you follow David Splane's logic. )
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What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?
by minimus ini say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.
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never a jw: Assuming that greater help is given to immigrants than citizens, I would say that there is an economical incentive , or a political incentive. Look at Merkel and her 1000 000 newcomers this year alone. Consider the 3 recently arrived minority members of a small, religious minority, in the new government cabinet, that came out of a recent election.(result of minority block voting). and: Anyone can declare himself a "refugee" receive immediate benefits, including a free lawyer, whereas normal immigrants wait for years and are expected to pay fees for every move. The immigration/refugee industry "loves this idea" -
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What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?
by minimus ini say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.
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LUHE: Plus, if every country took in a share of refugees, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
"Refugees" do not want to go to every country. Their choice is strictly based on the amount of taxpayers money they can harvest. They want to end up in Sweden, England, germany, Canada (the Ocean gets in the way there). Australia does it right 'refugee benefits' here are a place to sleep, food, some medical, and safe wait offshore until you can return safely home.
Look at the scenes in Calais, across Europe, This is not flight from war anymore, more like a scramble on black Friday. Help the victims by all means." Immigration is good. I think --"too, Fmf.