The 1984 wt showing the generation of anointed overlappees gives details to push the Great Tribulation line right into David Splane's shoulder. Move over man.
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Generation Teaching Hall of Shame chart
by truthseeker inthis is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.. direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg.
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Do you believe in a personal God?
by StephaneLaliberte inthere may be a god, but i doubt he has anything to do with us now.
i cannot reconcile concentration camps such as auschwitz, which i have visited, and people praying before their meal, thanking him, who did nothing.
here is an example: frank has a kid named johnny.
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A personal God as outlined by Stephane Laliberte, does not exist for me either. but I feel there is nothing wrong to be thankful for existence, sustenance, joy, for it is a gift, though a temporary one from a possible creator.
re: pain and shoa, we have the capacity to abate pain, great work. and why did not the mighty US air force destroy the camps, transportation facilities? they precision bombed industrial targets just kms away.?
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Rivalry among the sisters
by Esmeralda001 inwhen i was first introduced to the "truth", i was so distracted by the love and affection that the members were showing me that i was ready to convert into the religion without thinking twice.
i was conviced that jws were god's people (i still think some of them are).
i made it my goal to get baptized as i wanted to be part of the "only" religion that produce such good people.
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now imagine that such caricature characters will decide among themselves who will be elderette, Coordinatorette, --- -
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Names of GB's wives?
by Esse quam videri indoes anyone know the names of the gb members wives?
where could i find them?
just curious!.
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Linda, a fine, pleasant lady and opposites attract. -
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What made you turn atheist or agnostic?
by LevelThePlayingField inif you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.
the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.
have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.
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I am still one notch beyond agnostic, although we are not certain, even in science, of all things; I am still a Deist, my turning ?:
1) watchtower is wrong about the bible,
2) the bible is wrong about reality . wrong compounded. the two witness rule at its best.
3) all book-,tablet- based beliefs are wrong, except the readers of the "book of nature". we just need more time and better glasses; hopefully that will shift the four groups into the better camp either way.
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We (in the 21st century) are not living in the biblical "last days."
by quincemyles inall that jesus spoke about in matthew 24 was fulfilled in the first century.
all of jesus' warnings in that passage were relevant only to natural jews.
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Patmos? a more pragmatic branch of the Abrahamic promise faiths are looking for a way to paradise via Lesbos, an island near by. -
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Local Needs part given after Ministerial Servant left the organization
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.
some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.
18:15 - obey.
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Houston TX home of part of the US space program, a few brothers working in that in FL, perhaps other Nasa facilities too, logical thinkers, first to realize when the evidence of the BS in wtBtS becomes overwhelming. -
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Gilead was built to be Bethelite tribulation Bombshelter 1940!!!
by Witness 007 inrutherford believed the "great tribulation" would begin during world war 2. his book "enemies" explained america and britain would turn into a fascist/catholic state so...... watchtower 82 8/15 p.10 "for the saftey of the bethel family a place of refuge was built at south landsing new york.
it was never needed for that purpose...later transformed into gilead missionary school...".
watch.
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Not to forget there were Nazi U boats in the Finger Lakes. Bethelites bought shotguns in the local hardware stores. -
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Relatives who work in Warwick are visiting
by cappytan inso i have some relatives who work in warwick visiting us this week.
the visit has been largely drama free.
they came between meeting days, so the subject of going to the meetings never came up.. however, they have been talking about the "downsizing.".
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TWoY: Why did they not ask for the Obama care for the really needy in their organisation.?
Even Obamacare is relatively expensive compared to the Bismarkcare of 1883.
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Is zeal beginning to vanish?
by Caupon init has to be starting to fade somehow.
the very last time i went out in field service, hardly any were out.
maybe just about nine people were out and man if you could just see their faces.
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I can not imagine what it would be like to trying to talk to people about a hope that requires the end of the world to personally live forever, an end of the world that will come after the passing of an overlapping generation that might not come after 2075 after all. A house to house canvassing that has as a goal to start truly mind-stifling "bible study" indoctrination sessions, which goals it is to bring new recruits to training, indoctrination meetings with spiritual highlights, where the spiritual, worship highlights are the singing of truly ugly new melodies.-- The witnesses and householders have a common problem, they can not help but hate it. . So, who is the common enemy in this?