Posts by prologos

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I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

prologos

If you live in an area that has as its main male occupation, "Lumberjack", that is, swinging the axe, the result would be you getting the axe, rather than your wife becoming convinced of the truth about the truth. The elder's lack of knowledge on deep subjects, as a fact, might be already suspected by your wife, she needs not convincing of that. Elders hate nothing more than having their ignorance exposed, to be challenged, since their claim to fame, their authority is their wt appointment, and challenging the wt authority is a sure start on the road to df status. ,

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Names of GB's wives?

by Esse quam videri in

does anyone know the names of the gb members wives?

where could i find them?

just curious!.

prologos

Iutbad: "The names of the gb's wives are NOT important. After all they are only women! Does the bible give the names of the the apostles wives.? good point, but the mothers of the kings in Israel were written, though few of the GB wives will be mothers, but I read the wife of Morris III is, from pre-Brooklyn days

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Generation Teaching Hall of Shame chart

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

this is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.. direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg.

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prologos

The 1984 wt showing the generation of anointed overlappees gives details to push the Great Tribulation line right into David Splane's shoulder. Move over man.

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Do you believe in a personal God?

by StephaneLaliberte in

there may be a god, but i doubt he has anything to do with us now.

i cannot reconcile concentration camps such as auschwitz, which i have visited, and people praying before their meal, thanking him, who did nothing.

here is an example: frank has a kid named johnny.

prologos

A personal God as outlined by Stephane Laliberte, does not exist for me either. but I feel there is nothing wrong to be thankful for existence, sustenance, joy, for it is a gift, though a temporary one from a possible creator.

re: pain and shoa, we have the capacity to abate pain, great work. and why did not the mighty US air force destroy the camps, transportation facilities? they precision bombed industrial targets just kms away.?

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Rivalry among the sisters

by Esmeralda001 in

when i was first introduced to the "truth", i was so distracted by the love and affection that the members were showing me that i was ready to convert into the religion without thinking twice.

i was conviced that jws were god's people (i still think some of them are).

i made it my goal to get baptized as i wanted to be part of the "only" religion that produce such good people.

prologos

now imagine that such caricature characters will decide among themselves who will be elderette, Coordinatorette, ---

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Names of GB's wives?

by Esse quam videri in

does anyone know the names of the gb members wives?

where could i find them?

just curious!.

prologos

Linda, a fine, pleasant lady and opposites attract.

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What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

by LevelThePlayingField in

if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

prologos

I am still one notch beyond agnostic, although we are not certain, even in science, of all things; I am still a Deist, my turning ?:

1) watchtower is wrong about the bible,

2) the bible is wrong about reality . wrong compounded. the two witness rule at its best.

3) all book-,tablet- based beliefs are wrong, except the readers of the "book of nature". we just need more time and better glasses; hopefully that will shift the four groups into the better camp either way.

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We (in the 21st century) are not living in the biblical "last days."

by quincemyles in

all that jesus spoke about in matthew 24 was fulfilled in the first century.

all of jesus' warnings in that passage were relevant only to natural jews.

(mat.

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Patmos? a more pragmatic branch of the Abrahamic promise faiths are looking for a way to paradise via Lesbos, an island near by.

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Local Needs part given after Ministerial Servant left the organization

by cappytan in

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friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbb8rt2bem8.

some crazy cult language in this talk.. some highlights:.

18:15 - obey.

prologos

Houston TX home of part of the US space program, a few brothers working in that in FL, perhaps other Nasa facilities too, logical thinkers, first to realize when the evidence of the BS in wtBtS becomes overwhelming.

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Gilead was built to be Bethelite tribulation Bombshelter 1940!!!

by Witness 007 in

rutherford believed the "great tribulation" would begin during world war 2. his book "enemies" explained america and britain would turn into a fascist/catholic state so...... watchtower 82 8/15 p.10 "for the saftey of the bethel family a place of refuge was built at south landsing new york.

it was never needed for that purpose...later transformed into gilead missionary school...".

watch.

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Not to forget there were Nazi U boats in the Finger Lakes. Bethelites bought shotguns in the local hardware stores.