The least that those wt gloaters could do read their bible. Proverbs 17:5 "He that is joyful at [another's] disaster will not be free from punishment." 24:17 "When your enemy falls do not rejoice --that--" see Schadenfreude.
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Remember When Something Bad Would Happen And You Felt Its Really What They Deserved?
by minimus ini was thinking about christmas and how celebrants may lose their home and all their possessions because a christmas candle burned down the house.. witnesses smugly would say, "well, they shouldn't have been celebrating the holidays!
".....yet if a jw got into a fatal car accident while going to a convention, it was clearly satan's doing..
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Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?
by slimboyfat inif this has been discussed i missed it.
i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.
but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.
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M210: deliberately vague in print? i think every word is very carefully chosen, even in committee-style reviews, to have the subtle effect that Slimboy proposed. wt seems to resigned to ever increasing partaker counts, but are trying to diffuse the issue. has it not occurred to them that all should be partake? -
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Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?
by slimboyfat inif this has been discussed i missed it.
i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.
but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.
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I just received the 1-15-2016 wt today, a gift from an ardent student. glancing through it, The reference to increasing the requirements as Slimboy suggested, must be very subtle, because the emphasis is still on a mysterious "anointing process" ( new word, par.8) there still seem to be a disconnect between works and anointing, although current GB members are ex cos, not all "anointed" are. Even a miracle for or by you would not count as a sign of being a "wt saint". (par 15) There will be many juicy comments here on these two articles. Tidbits I gathered?:
1) page 22 par 1 : the anointed only are still the "spiritual Israel" wheres "john" wrote they come out of the 12 tribes.
2.) par 17: "--the majority of the anointed have already died --[and been resurrected?]" that means we still could have 72001 genuine partakers , and many more counted, before 2075, by current trends. Can you imagine more than 144 000 partakers?
3) par. 14 "-- [anointed} have not lost interest in life, wanting it to end quickly--" no, hence the overlapping generation taking us to 2075.
4) page 26 par 15 :" it seems that all in the first-century Congregation were anointed--", well, it seems only? of course all the billions of partakers that were fooled by BTG, would end up on earth surely there had to be 12 non -anointed tribes for the partakers to come out of.
The anointing process is still hidden, personal and mind changing, a process akin to Eve listening to the talking snake.
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Yearbook 2016: Annual Report (15177 Partakers)
by Designer Stubble inthe 2016 yearbook is up on jw.orgbranches of jehovahs witnesses: 89 (was 90)number of lands reporting: 240 (was 239)total congregations: 118016 (was 115416)worldwide memorial attendance: 19,862,763 (was 19,950,019) decreasememorial partakers worldwide: 15,177 (was 14,121 in 2013:13,204) large increasepeak of publishers in kingdom service: 8,220,105 (was 8,201,205) minor increaseaverage publishers preaching each month: 7,987,279 (was 7,867,958)percentage of increase over 2014: 1.5 (was 2.2)total number baptized: 260,273 (was 275,581)average auxiliary pioneer publishers each month: 443,504 (was 635,298) huge decreaseaverage pioneer publishers each month: 1,135,210 (was 1,089,446)total hours spent in field: 1,933,473,727 (was 1,945,487,604) decreaseaverage home bible studies each month: 9,708,968 (was 9,499,933)
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Alanv: Interestingly, the increase in Europe is now around 0.2% which is very similar to the population increase of Europe. But that is changing Germany, Sweden had an 1% increase this year, and very few of the additions will become a jw and live. -
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A Tug on the Leash (The Authority Which the GB Wields Over the R&F)
by Oubliette inrecently, several comments have been made in various threads in reference to some of the recent changes to a few of the rules by which jehovah's witnesses must live their lives in unquestioning compliance.
the assertion has been made that these rules are a "relaxing" of previous restrictions.
the suggestion has been made that this somehow indicates a corresponding relaxing or loosening or lessening of the authority which the governing body (gb) holds over the rank and file (r&f) members of the religion.
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SBF: "Sure sisters can "conscientiously" now decide to impose a stricter rule on themselves than they need to if they wish. Such freedom. and if she does, it is a pull on the leash for the hapless unbaptized publisher too, message: to get baptized a.s.a.p., to get the full respect (headscarf) of the majority of the congregation. killing two birds with one stone. -
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If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914
by blondie indoesn't that throw off the date?.
*** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.
in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.
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There are "Human" years, "Dog" years, "Solar" years and Watchtower "Lunar-Solar" years.Wasanelder once upon a time , not to forget that as seen from the Pleiades, Russel's, heaven, a year has one more day, 266, then when counted by us. So, from "god's" viewpoint, the wt calculation is 7 years off, and that does not consider the 0 year missing, considered by wt a divine favour, that cinched the prophetic fit.
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global warming/ tidal rise.. etc
by zeb inreports that if the greenland ice sheet melts and the western sheet of antarctica do the same then the oceans will rise in a generation by as many as( 8 is mentioned) metres.
now what is the above sea level height of the ny wt buildings?
or the new palace they are building elsewhere in ny.. food for thought?
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Warwick NY will still be 150 meters above the new warmer ocean heights, it will be better for the surfing bethel members a shorter drive to the beach, but not as good anymore as Brooklyn to Coney island, doable before breakfast. -
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Yearbook 2016: Annual Report (15177 Partakers)
by Designer Stubble inthe 2016 yearbook is up on jw.orgbranches of jehovahs witnesses: 89 (was 90)number of lands reporting: 240 (was 239)total congregations: 118016 (was 115416)worldwide memorial attendance: 19,862,763 (was 19,950,019) decreasememorial partakers worldwide: 15,177 (was 14,121 in 2013:13,204) large increasepeak of publishers in kingdom service: 8,220,105 (was 8,201,205) minor increaseaverage publishers preaching each month: 7,987,279 (was 7,867,958)percentage of increase over 2014: 1.5 (was 2.2)total number baptized: 260,273 (was 275,581)average auxiliary pioneer publishers each month: 443,504 (was 635,298) huge decreaseaverage pioneer publishers each month: 1,135,210 (was 1,089,446)total hours spent in field: 1,933,473,727 (was 1,945,487,604) decreaseaverage home bible studies each month: 9,708,968 (was 9,499,933)
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At the current annual increase when will they reach 144,000? Blondie. --a rough guestimate put that year to be 2034. so, WT has put the total F&DS starting at 1919. They could see the fulfillment of all the anointed in the overlapping generation in our lifetime, by 2034. who needs the apostles anyway. -
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If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914
by blondie indoesn't that throw off the date?.
*** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.
in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.
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Nothing would give more meaning to one's life than being a player in a cosmic event, and millennianists grasped at straws to find proof of their greatness, using numerology* to bridge the gap to the past, fudging as they went along. They ignored one of the true sayings of "Jesus" Acts 1:7 " --it is not given to you to understand times and seasons--" . Even physicists labor on that one. Is time a river flowing by or are we moving through time? Measuring time is the easy part, unless you start overlapping.
*** numerology: 360x400=144 000
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If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914
by blondie indoesn't that throw off the date?.
*** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.
in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.
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Phizzy, when you deduct 38 from 1914 you get 1876 you are then in the ballpark of 1878 if you deal with cardinal numbers.
Blondie's link:"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. so: forgetting about 1914 will be the end of that trouble.