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  MY Bethel Experience Part 17

  by new boy in

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  more "odds and ends".

  i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he was from alabama, he knew how to curse at the right time.

  i think, that’s why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with my future wife’s parents.

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  what is "NC 17" please?
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  Preaching? For what purpose? All JW's need to ask this question.

  by park ave boy in

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  what is the purpose of preaching if not for converts?.

  basically, preaching by the jw's is to make converts.

  this in itself implies that jehovah's witnesses believe that they alone have the only acceptable way to god and that everyone else is just not worthy.

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  the basic premise approaching the doors was: "we are right, and you are wrong!" and we can prove it with a four scripture "sermon" or the "make sure" book. Jws certainly can not recommend the "love"in the congregation. so what is left?
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  Overlapping "Kinds"...Coming soon to a Watchtower near you?

  by juandefiero in

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  2. beliefs

  putting on my carnac hat here.. let's say the evidence for evolution becomes so overwhelming that the society eventually has to accept it due to much turmoil in the congregations.

  how do they do so without saying they've been wrong?.

  why, redefine a word, of course!

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  cofty: "Therefore there was no Adam, no perfection and no fall. Therefore their version of the Ransom falls apart. and with it the guilt tripping of having to work harder to be worthy of the ransom's application via obedience to the organisation. May be that is their major writing project to come up with a flawed existence via evolution that needs their ministration to bring about perfection.
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  Finding the value of God; Isn't it better to believe in a deity?

  by Caupon in

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  the question as to what believing in this entity called god entails is a fairly important question that needs to be answered first.

  to me, the key difference between a universe in which god exists versus one where god doesn't lies in the idea of teleology.

  in my view, a universe with god entails some sort of process towards an end, an end which can be characterized with words such as bliss and unity and others.

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  inventing universes just for the heck of it to see what happens . certainly we are surprised every time we look a little closer, deeper, further, so the future is open ended, like in the evolution process, and we are part of it, enjoy it!
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  It's not "new light" anymore it's "new lies" .

  by truth doubter in

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  this is my first post.

  i never dreamed i'd be on a site like this.

  i was baptized 43 years ago and pretty much have done and seen it all.

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  Glad you joined.and you never have to doubt the truth, the truth about the truth, truth dobter.
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  The Bread Illustration (Feb 16 Broadcast) - Massive Contradiction

  by fizzle in

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  2. friends

  so... bro flodin puts poison onto the first loaf of bread and says that this pictures someone "sinning against the holy spirit".

  he then puts the bread into the trash can stating that jehovah completely discards anyone "sinning against the holy spirit"... meaning they cannot ever be forgiven...he says that the pharisees "sinned against the holy spirit" because they denied indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit displayed by jesus... therefore jehovah would completely discard them... no way back for them.. fast forward a little... we have the bible character stephen...acts 6:8 says: now stephen, full of divine favor and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.so stephen was showing indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit.now we come to the bible character paul (saul)... he was a pharisee.paul would have seen stephen in action... witnessing the indisputable evidence of the operation of jehovah's holy spirit first hand!yet paul not only waged war against all christians but he personally approved the killing (stoning) of stephen.according to the bread illustration paul should have been discarded by jehovah at this point for "sinning against the holy spirit"... he would have been put in the trash can... no way back at all...but what happened according to the bible?

  jesus appeared to him on the road to damascus... he became one of the most zealous apostles in bible history with jehovah's full support!so what on earth is the bread illustration all about?

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  JWGB: " Paul should indeed have been discarded by Jah at this point for 'sinning against the Holy spirit'. yeah, for at the point of Stephen's stoning he must have heard of the miracles in Jerusalem, thousand of priests being baptized. and he started writing against the establishment he left, as some here. are we getting the message?
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  Finding the value of God; Isn't it better to believe in a deity?

  by Caupon in

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  the question as to what believing in this entity called god entails is a fairly important question that needs to be answered first.

  to me, the key difference between a universe in which god exists versus one where god doesn't lies in the idea of teleology.

  in my view, a universe with god entails some sort of process towards an end, an end which can be characterized with words such as bliss and unity and others.

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  ttdtt: God is just a mechanism to make you feel that there is something after death. or better yet during life, for like my young daughter, she is continually putting things together, caring for her pet dolls, dogs. so typical of imitating what we see in nature/creation if you will. Even a one-way force of gravity is pulling matter into empire structures of stars, nicely balanced by velocities. Consider yourself part of a building/caring project.
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  The Demons were messing with me last night!

  by olongapo joe in

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  so said my pops one morning.

  we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!

  must be demons cause pops didn't change it!

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  I just scanned the title, and I thought it was Donald the Trump complaining that the Democrats were messing with him last(Monday) night in Iowa.
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  FEB 2016 broadcast

  by Grey Goose in

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  it might be the craziest one yet..

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  these men who may look like waiters are not actually Bethel waiters (as if anyone CARED!!!) but are, actually, hold on for it... secretaries for GB helpers. Oh my! Thanks the lord!!!

  wait!! Loesch of GB fame is actually a graduate waiter from Austria , that also produced a paperhanger with similar cosmic ambitions, so, titles, even when hidden matter, now, will that be a glass of water with your bread???
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  What is more important life or justice?

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

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  I would rather be alive than justified, proven right. Being alive allows you to see how things work out.