My answer, has to to do with the concept of time as a 4st dimension. In our world, that did not always exist, we move through time, as well as in the three space dimensions. There was no such movement prior to our universe's beginning. The creator (not necessarily "god" as we think), did, or does not move through time . He is, because of that, not the effect of a prior cause. He is already in the future, in the eternal unmoving time, awaiting our travel onward through time, as he also was in the past,-- before we started moving through time. I do not have to worry about "turtles all the way down" or causes that existed all the way back into eternity. Time is huge and eternal, and not everybody moves through it.
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Proof God Does NOT Exist
by Hadriel ino.k.
here's just a little fun, you guys can run with it.. if god existed would he allow the whacktower to be in business?
just sayin... lol.
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Interesting statement regarding "this generation"
by InChristAlone ini keep up with allexperts.com, and i noticed an interesting question to "brother rando".
his statement surprised me, and i am wondering if i missed some new light along the way.. question:.
"hello bro rando.
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He misses the point that" whoever partakes unworthily, has a final judgement against her/him, no safety net, fall-back scenario, like wieseling back into the the great crowd. The only a few partaking is of course a wt invention. (99% of patents are useless, and this dividing Christians is one of them. -
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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?
by raven inhi friends,.
can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?
i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?
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According to wt, the only ones that will not pass away, never die, are the Other Sheep, in the Great Crowd. but They are not the generation at all, the overlappers and underlapped are the anointed, who will pass away. or be raptured before all these things, including the biggy, Arm-a -geddon, arrives. -
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Writing Department stumbled over Lord’s prayer!?
by elbib inthoughtlessness of jw writing committee can be seen in building their “great” teaching of universal issue.
they took lord’s prayer as the basis for this teaching.
they thought god’s sovereignty was challenged by satan, thus his name was tarnished, hence jesus taught his name to be to “be sanctified.”—mathew 6:9..
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elbib, very interesting thoughts, but you still instill in "Jesus" saviour-like qualities. Have you thought about the possibility, that we are perfectly normal creatures, needing no ransomer? that the talking snake story is a myth,? If you were ever hungry for a long time, you would pray for bread, rice or potatoes too. rather than giving thanks as we do now. -
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Anointed rule as soon as they get to heaven. Is this another flip flop ?
by wannaexit ini remember hearing that the anointed that died would start ruling at the start of the thousand year reign.
now it seems they are teaching that these deluded bozos that die get to rule right now in heaven.
when did this teaching change?
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I recall, and we have to wait for blondie's confirmation, that the heavens (for heavens's sake) were only cleansed by 1918, and it is into these spanking clean spaces that the heavenly resurrection proceeded. The resurrected anointed are training, participating in the kingdom work, and of course preparing for combat at Armageddon,- slated to happen not later than 2075., according to the "double Franz" overlap.
I apologize if this is a silly question, but did the 1000 year reign start in 1914, or does it only start at Armageddon?
Not silly at all, because the 1914 kingdom, invisibly, is a pure wt invention, a rogue kingdom that is not the theme of the Lord's Prayer,
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The Hunting Ground Netflix Documentary , Sexual Assaults on Campus
by smiddy in"this documentary expose` tackles the disturbing epidemic of sexual assault on college campuses and school officials efforts to cover up the crimes.".
it also highlights how institutions , sport ,religion ,the media , law enforcement , and financial concerns are all complicit in this cover up , blaming the victim while protecting the perpetrator .. their are so many similarities to what occurs in the jehovah witness /watchtower religion .. i highly recommend you view it if you haven`t already seen it , and if so please comment on it .. smiddy.
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It is beyond me, why the police is not called in right away on any of these crimes. I am glad I am not sending a daughter off to college this year. A Canadian Uni made the victim sign "conduct instructions" that forbade them to discuss the "incident" with any outside agency. At least on campus, the predators do not target minors, but close. -
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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?
by raven inhi friends,.
can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?
i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?
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OGTG: The hybrid generation of 1914, using Franz as the basis for it, makes that generation 122 years old now.
with ~ 60 years more to go.
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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?
by raven inhi friends,.
can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?
i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?
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sld: now comes the difficult bit. blood fractions. blood fractions are overlapping too, and the R&F are lapping it up.
FD: "So he stood up in that dining hall and announced the end of the gentile times!! they even announced "The world has ended--millions--" as Carl Sagan said: "-- the world has ended, but nobody noticed it!"
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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?
by raven inhi friends,.
can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?
i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?
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To top it all, Jesus said : "--this generation will not pass away--" current wt doctrine says :"-- the generation* will pass away--"
Generation overlapping and anointed.
The Germans have an appropriate name for situations like that:
verfranzt. ( lost, befuddled) in wt's case caused by the theological contribution of Frederick Franz. (Friedrich der kleine).---2 F.Franzes like him, overlapping will get wt to 2075, the centennial.
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UK: Would anyone like to attend Frank Otuo's next hearing against the Watchtower? Or send him your support?
by defender of truth inwww.standard.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-sues-for-150000-after-church-snubbed-him-over-fraud-claims-9750062.htmlfrank otuo is suing the watchtower for disfellowshipping him and causing the loss of his family and his friends, after being disfellowshipped based on a false accusation of fraud.on friday may 13th 2016, a hearing will take place to decide whether the watchtower's defence will be thrown out.otuo is confident that it will be.
;)would anyone like to be there on the day, to see what happens and maybe even report back and tell us what you saw?.
otuo would like it if some people could be there to cheer him on, as it were.
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It is this kind of going-ons that have prompted oversight bodies in some jurisdictions to ban financial advisors to operate among trusting "friends" of religious, fraternal organisations.