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Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset
by cofty in
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there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.

there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.

some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.
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The wt mindset is anchored in the downward spiral of mankind since Eve's perfection. and of course that negates the astonishing improvements in humans and their accomplishments. It is kind of a fatalism. and then the constant thwarting of human advancement by "god": the flood, the tower of babel, and then Satan's world rule. Only service and contribution to wt will cure all that. "angst" to the german mind might not be the right word, it means fear. It is more of a pessimism, fatalism channeled into useless non self improvement, aka religion. a good thing to be aware of cofty. thanks.
There can of course, be real cause for "welt angst" if condition take an uncontrollable turn south, new "leaders", new weapons.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Fisherman, You are describing not time, but movement through time, which is not a given, even in this universe. At the speed of light there is no movement through time. Einstein realised, thinking of surfing on a wave of photons, that the clock [he was watching looking back] would never appear to move. At the rim of a black hole too, you would stop moving through time.Time is really stationary, both inside and outside the universe, it is us in the medium range of expansion that move through it, from one event to the next. If you can be in time without moving through it, what would stop time to exist before, during and after?
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May 2, 2016 Re: Entrance Time at Regional Conventions
by wifibandit in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
may 2, 2016 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: entrance time at regional conventions.
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It is untheocratic to remove any of the rows of magazines that the sprinters have draped over the backs of the best seats. New World Citizens in training.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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V: "A label that says "made in Japan". Yeah, may be the universe is justs waves (in strings) like the great waves in Hawaii, California, Oregon, they are made in Japan too, originally. Then, he big bang was the mother of all tsunamis.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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V: "Ingredients. " or just a seed with instructions how to grow, to evolve?
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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P: "--the more gravity, the less time, the equations of relativity state--" . so: were the conditions before the big bang the opposite that they are now? the universe multiplied by -1, but conditions none- or, nevertheless?
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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S: "--Without gravity, there is no time--" EoM: "--he was always there since time didn't exist prior. --"
How can you have "always", every time, continuously, continually without there actually being a dimension to have those occurrences in? And how can you have no time without gravity when the equations of relativity state the opposite: the more gravity, the less time, maximum gravity= no time at all, absence of gravity= full flow of [through] time?
better you-all substitute "time" for movement through time to make it work. for we live in a working, worked universe, that started with raising time to the second power. aka acceleration, "inflation" even.
Some of you want to give the creator nothing. I at least try to give him time.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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F: "assumes" -- or better yet presumes? If somehow the big bang energy imbalance was triggered, there had to be acceleration, movement through time squared, You can not have movement through time unless it is there in the first place. or? Am I presumptuous?
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
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2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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F Get your own NOTHING!!!!" That is a tall order, after all, we are not creators, bu converters, special user of Energy. Particularly making a nothing (no THING) that would serve to make the universe.
The Question " what was there BEFORE the Big Bang?" implies though, that there was time. there was no thing, but there was time. Is it time to accept that?
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Hearts going out to those in the Fort Mac area
by Dagney in
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2. friends
a few posters on here live in fort mcmurray, canada where there is a devastating fire.

one at least has lost her home and beloved dog.

thinking of you all.
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I hope nobody has suffered burns, was asphyxiated. Is not the Fort an oil town? with crude worldwide in a fire sale, a double whammy, an internal Canadian refugee crisis, Charity starts at home.