just read over the long thread about a letter to hq regarding noah's flood.
reminded of another literal litmus test.
within 7 years of beginning telescopic observations of the heavens, galileo was called to judgment by the inquisition in 1616. disputes in this case abound, but the biblical arguments for which galileo was tried and condemned "revolved" around i chronicles 16:30, psalms 93:1, 96:10, 104.5 and ecclesiastes 1:5, summarized by "the world is established; it shall never be moved.
kepler; ' --For in the case of ordering the sun and moon to stand still, most of their observed motion is based on that of the earth. The earth revolves; not the sun.
do I read right? does not the rising , setting of the sun depend on the daily rotation of the earth and not it's yearly revolving? except for one sidereal day?
you are right;-- "god" did not proof-read the bible.
in the book of luke chapter 21 it's writings are very similar to that of matthew where jesus is talking about the end and "this generation" .
he mentions jerusalem being surrounded and to flee.
in modern times bible believers believe this generation is about thier generation and jerusalem is refuring to spiritual jerusalem and they point to scriptures in the book of revelations to make the point.
there is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.
there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.
some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.
my wife and i live in a small town in northern new jersey.
there is a building near our house that, many decades ago, used to be the local post office.
it sat idle for many years, but a couple of years ago, some folks bought it and renovated it into a nice little cafe.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
my wife and i live in a small town in northern new jersey.
there is a building near our house that, many decades ago, used to be the local post office.
it sat idle for many years, but a couple of years ago, some folks bought it and renovated it into a nice little cafe.
looks like undelivered junk mail left in the abandoned building. abandoned, no surprise, since, according to the paper, the world had ended 100 years ago. and
Historical finds as this establish proof, as to why wt writers at that time,- circa 1919 , -were rightfully declared the only Faithful and Discreet Slave(s) ever.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
What I meant to show is, that
the "Overlapping modern day Methuselahs" would have gotten the 1914 generation promise to 2154. wait until the inventive wt bean counters switch from $s to generation timing teachings.
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
TD: "Much more than the word games we have seen so far with the definition of a generation. 
good description!
V7: these are good reminders, and hidden in these word game changes are actually 4 shortenings of the time wt has available to play with:
1) the change from general population to anointed : There are record breakers living into their 120s, Frederick Franz lived to only 98 ? a give away of ->22 years;
2) the change from normal people to partakers made the count start at the generation member's baptism ( before ~ 1935), or year of first partaking; so,-lop off another 15 years at best. -37 total.
3) The change to overlapping anointed , rather than overlapping 122 year gp seniors, would make that -74 years.
4) By excluding Armageddon from "all the things" that are to occur during the anointed* generation, wt writers took out, shortening it by the heavy, the fun part, the climax, perhaps the denouement too, #. . .> -7 years, because * the last anointed standing will be martyred , called to heaven, raptured, well before the final battle in order to participate! and they used to teach that the last partakers would survive into the new world , # if you include the 7 year cleanup. so:
A repetition of F. Franz gets us close to 2075, the missed opportunities in the games of words could get the wt to 2156 ?, without blinking an eye, or perhaps we see them already winking? it is all a game of heavenly thrones, & words?
april 26, 2016 to all congregations re: god’s kingdom rules!
to be considered at congregation bible study.
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I sped read through it when it first came out. speed reading reading with one eye starting at the bottom, with the other at the top simultaneously, and not a peep of "jesus' rule touching "his enemies", no, only over the congregation, "jesus" orchestrating every move of the newly minted, but only lately discovered F&DS of 1919. and
is that not the case since Pentecost, according to Colossians 1:13, "transfered them into the KINGDOM of his son's love--?"
it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
TD; "--What possible incentive is that to be faithful????? "Perhaps the reward is not in the failing future fulfillment promises , but in a life well lived.. It should make the reward seeker livid. or?
What I liked to point out is, that with about 80 per year sealed for heaven, it is evident that most believers always were destined for earthly live, like it or not, according to wt doctrine. The earthly class started with Abel, the vegetarian arrion sacrificer, ~6000 years ago, not in 1935.
