These details should be brought up again and again. We wish wt made it mandatory for all public speakers to sign a pledge to believe these dates, before going up on the platform; perhaps then they would have to make it womandatory. The Egyptians were building pyramids while the flood water overlapped the top of everest.
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Argument for JDubs or any Fundi's
by Socrateswannabe injehovah's witnesses believe:.
1. man was created in 4026 bce.
2. a global flood occurred in 2370 bce.
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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"
by smiddy inthat admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?
" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".
have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.
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not infallible? so, when are they going to fall?
AnV: "-- overlapping generation" as pure BS
the real error is in the anointed generation. it does not pass the test. The generation is supposed to survive the destruction. the anointed will not even get close, will be dead, called to heaven before. so, will they go back to the general population generation? at least there will be some 116 year olds overlapping, buy wt another 30-40 years.
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Imperfect Spiritual Food
by berrygerry inthe feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.
this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".
again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".
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did Jesus not say "--food at the proper (perfect) time--?". Since dates*** seem to be the main ingredients of the wt fare, with the always and still wrong expiration date, how can the wt output even be classified as proper food?
*** not the palm plant, the face palm.
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Was it Adam who altered his own DNA so that sicknesses & consequent death would be passed on to his offspring?
by deegee inthe blame for mankind's sicknesses/diseases and consequent death has been placed squarely on the shoulders of adam:.
romans 5:12, 17 - 19:"therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—for if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.......consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people........for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners........".
1 corinthians 15: 21, 22:"for since death came through a man........... for as in adam all die.......".
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The method of execution that "god" used to kill A&E was preventing them from further access to the tree of life in the centre of the garden. he did not rescind permission to eat of all the trees, (except the knowledge kind). The tree of life was not some kind of a first aid kit in case of an emergency, put a central part of their diet. We still are as perfectly mortal as A&E we are just not getting the magic substances or the fountain of youth.
While we are on genetics, News: Longevity of the human race is due to old man having children. woman cese to have kids at preset ages before~50. Men keep on inseminating until they die, the oldest inseminators have offspring with that robust fertility, and have passed it on poosting the overall age in the process. Long live viral old men. The bible is right sometimes: Early bible men had kids when centenarian.
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Was it Adam who altered his own DNA so that sicknesses & consequent death would be passed on to his offspring?
by deegee inthe blame for mankind's sicknesses/diseases and consequent death has been placed squarely on the shoulders of adam:.
romans 5:12, 17 - 19:"therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—for if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.......consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people........for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners........".
1 corinthians 15: 21, 22:"for since death came through a man........... for as in adam all die.......".
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The eden account implies that A&E were created mortal, depending not just on food energy, but on that special ingredient: leaves, fruit, bark,- whatever off the tree of life, sooner or later, perhaps constantly. the tree of life was among those prominently provided and recommended, not another forbidden, or hidden source of continuing sustained life.
according to these story details then, there was no genetic dead-cake-panning needed to die. we are normal, pronounced to be among the "very good" of creation as we are, --but we die because of the twirling swords.
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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way
by notsurewheretogo inthe statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?
" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.
is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".
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ntswtg: "--It is a game changer, if they can say that, and then change major doctrines AND STILL get them to believe it is "the truth" then the GB will be very happy with that.
They should be happy, for they have then implicated the remaining elders in the enforcement, teaching of errors. They have compounded the responsibility and prepared the way for the "heavier judgement " to come, divine, or secular.
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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way
by notsurewheretogo inthe statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?
" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.
is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".
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xwjr: --"Even the Israelites wandered in the wilderness for years before finally being directed to the promised land, may we-- be determined to follow--
yeah, only two made it into Palestine, the rest were the overlapping generation. History repeats itself.
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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way
by notsurewheretogo inthe statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?
" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.
is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".
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nswtg: "Point it out to them that they may be pissing off God by obeying a wrong doctrine.
This is an argument that deserves repeating. assuming that the creator would want to sort out candidates for future life? : he would not want to have gullible dunces. If wt is a tool to fool, they would be classed with the talking snake and Judas. nice company. They clearly provided false doctrine, prophecy, whether they admit it now or not.
All that have repudiated wt doctrine would be in good standing.
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Is Jehovah Male Or Female, Manly of Womanly
by frankiespeakin inwhy is jehovah in the bible a male?
why not female since he is a god that is not earthly but from another realm where they don't have sex differences, does he have a penis?
does he have to pee and relieve himself?
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if we forget about the well defined "Jehovah" story, but use an amalgam of pseudoscience and the deist creator concept, the creator must be a hobbyist, usually male and aged, that has automatically set up even our corner of the possible multiverse with billions of habitable worlds, and laws that allow life to emerge and evolve, but has a strong female resemblance, because if he is eternal, extending even into the indefinite future, in all direction, and the Universe started not bigger than an all solid proton,
He had, and still has the all of it, and us, developing within him,.
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So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?
by stuckinarut2 inthe society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.
not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!
so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.
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I see parallels between the scientific method of developing a working knowledge of nature, and the religious efforts to explain it all. Most present religions, because they are based on past theories, but declared "holy" that can not be questioned, of divine origin, are actually proven wrong, superceded by what we know now through observation. So:
Religious experiments a la watchtower, putting doctrines out there to see whether they will match upcoming events are futile if based on these ancient, repudiated scripts. The creator has not by inspiration rvealed scientific laws, nor religious ones, otherwise these would prove fulfillment today.