The idea was that give honour to the one demanding honour. you always stayed a notch below the crowd, you can stand, but not raise your arm to Heil, or cover your heart, or sing. Too bad, there are some glorious anthems.
prologos
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Standing for the National Anthem?
by eyeslice2 inwe are currently living in a country where at the cinema the national anthem is played before the start of the movie and it is law that you stand.
does anyone know what current jw thinking is on this?
i know there has been various changes over the years.
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JW Policy Regarding "Marking" From The Nov 2016 WT
by JW_Rogue injws will deny that local needs parts are often just a way to mark those in the congregation who are deemed to be "bad association" or who don't fall in line with the elders viewpoints.
now, for the first time in a long time the wt discusses their marking policy and how it works in the nov study wt:.
recall paul’s counsel regarding disorderly ones in the congregation.
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prologos
They are cowards not to name the person. avoiding liability issues. and the stark light showing how terrible they really are. Did not Jesus advocate open judgements, before the whole congregation, and open disclosure as a means of reconsilliation rather than division? like: here it is, - deal with it as adults, Christians.
They name the person, but not the offence" XYZ is no longer a jw, " or
name the offence, but not the person,
in both cases not even the wt action: :
"we are marking," we are disfellowshipping, ". it is legalise.
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THE BIG A: RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.
by Mary inwhere did all the witnesses over the decades get the idea that armageddon was right around the corner?
the society certainly never put anything like that down in print:
*** w56 10/15 p. 614 when will gods kingdom come?
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np quote. "--Certainly the religious leaders will not be looked to for light—they will no longer be identified as such.
that includes the Governing Body of the JWs, because according to their overlapping charts, all anointed will be dead by then, gone to their reward, raptured, at the beginning of the GT. leaving the jws without their new light diet source.
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to marry a non JW is like Adam's choice? deadly? really?
by prologos inwt's fallacious analogies.
so: adam could not live without her, eve, but did the continuation of the marriage depend on him eating too?
did his' eating extend eve's life?
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perhaps others can confirm the very words. Adam actually married "in the Lord" did he really think he would become a widower? even now, couples die very close in time to each other. Did Adam prefer death to life without Eve? Or: did he eat to impress Eve? like Hinckley, the would be killer of R.Reagan, risking all to impress his girl?
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to marry a non JW is like Adam's choice? deadly? really?
by prologos inwt's fallacious analogies.
so: adam could not live without her, eve, but did the continuation of the marriage depend on him eating too?
did his' eating extend eve's life?
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prologos
Sir, If Circuit Oversees have to strictly adhere to wt outlines now, it comes from wt writers. ( maintain purity) anyway,
the non-jw marriage angle does not take away from the hilarity of it all. but
threatening prospective lovelorn jws with gehenna would be gross.
"Marry only in the Lord", preferably from among those that are "Lording it over you," (MS, glorious one's families)
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to marry a non JW is like Adam's choice? deadly? really?
by prologos inwt's fallacious analogies.
so: adam could not live without her, eve, but did the continuation of the marriage depend on him eating too?
did his' eating extend eve's life?
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really? wt's fallacious analogies. so: Adam could not live without her, Eve, but did the continuation of the marriage depend on him eating too? did his' eating extend Eve's life? many more fallacies in that wt illustration. . ( you might think of them), and post please
1) why not have Adam ignore Eve's offer, live with her for minus 960 years, and after Eve's death, -- marry one of his grand, grand grand-- daughters, still 50% perfect? He could have that way our imperfection, the "dent in the pan", bred out of the human race.
glad to have the talking snake story to kick around.
No resurrection for Adam, so: coming retribution for you lucky non-jw-married ones too.
PS: "Marry only in the Lord." listen to those lording it over you! or else.
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What is life?
by punkofnice inwhen i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.
psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.
although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.
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LUHE: "Life is a struggle
a profound statement, it is only because of the ones that struggled successfully that we, life, are around today and enjoy it's advancements , pain relief ---.
P.S. learn to enjoy the struggle. most successful strugglers did, Einstein, Usain Bolt,-- if you do not enjoy struggle, achievement, you miss life's purpose, it is the push for success, betterment. Creation rewards the successful livers. remember Jacob's hip, hipp hipp hurray.
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Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?
by sir82 inthere was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.
remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".
the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.
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But she wasn't - she said her parents "learned the truth" when she was 10 years old, so that would be 1919.
sorry Sir, I can not watch these wt production, did not know these details.
I was thinking before the re-baptism new light of wt, when a baby baptism in another church would be still valid, and all wt members were anointed before 1935. Another unknown anointed jw born a few years earlier, with her longevity, would get the overlappers past 2100. if faithfull, and if they are inured to wt's new light flip flops and doctrines. What they believe does not matter to them really, , and why should it?, it is after all, only talking snake talk follow-up anyway.
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Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?
by sir82 inthere was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.
remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".
the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.
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Sir : "--She was only 5 years old in 1914, certainly not baptized then, so even if "anointed", per the official malarkey, er, doctrine, she could not be part of the "first group" of the "overlapping generation".
prologos reply: I was referring to anointed "like her", in age, the way David Splane suggested older over-under-lappers "like F. Franz" which would bring us only to ~ 2072-75. If she was baptized as a baby, and anointing usually happens at baptism, she would be of the first, underlapped group.
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Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?
by sir82 inthere was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.
remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".
the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.
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Sir, "--a 107 year old lady who had been a JW since the age of 10 or so
wait a minute, in the truth for 97 years? since 1919, the year the GB, Faithful & Discreet Slave was born? invisibly? witnessed in the 30, so, of the anointed? part of either the overlapped or the overlappers? or both?with anointed like her, and overlapping, the great tribulation need not start until 2108, armageddon even later. new light hidden right there.