happy turning of the shadow day everyone, starting today,
in NY the shadows are getting shorter,
in NZ longer.
The shadow, that is how they proved ~ 300 bc, that the Earth is not a circle but a sphere.
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Nic's Alternative Xmas Message.
by nicolaou ini've done a few of these over the years but this time it's very simple.. beware jc, the bearded man who promises salvation and raises the hopes of many.
read his words of division if you're ever tempted to join his followers, or just ignore him and enjoy your life.
happy holidays everyone!
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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suffering= pain is a defense mechanism. you cause suffering by eating, clothing, shelter. justice allows that you endure suffering. is it not a fair bargain? it allows us to experience a great life for a while!
happy renewal of the solar cycle day every one. justice too, tasmania gets to have a summer. cortina d'ampezzo some snow.
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"Religion of Peace" Busy In Europe Today...
by freemindfade inturkey and now berlin, the abrahamic mind virus strikes again... actually there is no confirmation the truck attack was islam, but... it's probably islam.
at least in europe, they call terrorist attacks just that, unlike here in america, we have become so crazy we have clear terrorist attacks, some over a year old now that they still question the motive ala san bernadino.. religion .
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comment in a major paper: " show me a country with low immigration, and i'll show you a country with low no. of terrorist attacks and [attacks on woman],: Poland, Japan, Czec. Republic. ---
The murderer killed in Italy, trying to sneak out the same route, he sneaked in, but intercepted, and now frolicking with seventy virgins.
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Does The Multiverse Really Exist? (Shrinking Jehovah To Insignificance)
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5sr2z-pvm.
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the beginning was actually a white hole, intense, and expanding into time and it's new found space.
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Questions for the Biblical God
by Saethydd ini consider myself an agnostic, i feel no sense of certainty that there is a single all-powerful creator who made the entire universe, and yet i must acknowledge that the universe is a large place that is filled with much beauty so the possibility of an intelligent mind being behind it is certainly there.
lately, however, i do have more and more doubts about the god of the bible being a candidate for that all-powerful creator should such a being even exist at all.. these doubts are founded upon a number of questions for which i have never found any satisfying biblical or logical answer.
instead, i was simply chided with the remark that "god's actions aren't always meant to be understood by humans," which i found to be a very unsatisfying answer.
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2 Questions for the wt,bible god:
1) did you expect us to read the bible, your word? --Then
2). why did you not read it yourself, first; proofreading for scientific errors, before publishing it?
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Does The Multiverse Really Exist? (Shrinking Jehovah To Insignificance)
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5sr2z-pvm.
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GLT: "-That assumes a materialist point of view, that the creator would be of the same substances (matter, energy, space, time) as the things created.
not really, it assumes only that the first dimension, time, is fundamental and eternal.
The supposed creator of the multiverse would appropriately totally extend in that eternal dimension, but not moving through it,- as we do. He would always be bigger=older as his creation. no matter how big it gets. whereas the OP argues, that
a bigger creation= multiverse would shrink the creator by comparison.
Time is a dimension, what we experience is movement through time.
What really has shrunk is our ego , because we assumied we were quite significant, in the days the bible was written. We still live in the center of the universe though, but not the supposed multiverse.
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Name one Watchtower date that they got correct
by FatFreek 2005 init was the year 2011. remember that one?
surprise, surprise -- it wasn't one of their predictions.
it was from one of their competitors, harold camping.. "religious leaders sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers.
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Jan 1 2016 as the first day in the daily text brochure.
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Does The Multiverse Really Exist? (Shrinking Jehovah To Insignificance)
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5sr2z-pvm.
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let us suppose there is a multiverse that was made from nothing, since nothing has zero size, unless the multiverse made itself, the making maker must at that zero point in time have been bigger than the embryonic multiverse, but by how much? if that maker is eternal, he is infinitely older and larger. so:
The wt/bible god, the walker in the garden of eden might have become proportionally smaller, the creator only bigger, the bigger the multiverse, the bigger it's creator.or?
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Garden of Eden
by Onager inwhere is the garden of eden?.
i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.
adam and eve get booted out of this place.
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The mythical tree of life was among all the fruit good to eat, or good tea leafs. there was only one forbidden tree in the garden, If Adam & Eve must have been encouraged to eat from it, they must have been created mortal, and required to sustain themselves by a total diet from the garden, so,
maybe what they thought to be swords, were really propellers, blowing a lot of hot air.
we all got fooled by the talking snake story for a while.
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The definition of a false prophet
by HereIgo inthe last time i spoke to my mother, who is a devout jw, she threatened me with typical jw scare tactics telling me how oh so close the end is and how me and my 2 young daughters will be slaughtered by god himself in armageddon.
knowing that this is just a scare tactic, i respectfully listened, then replied that the jw's have wrongfully predicted the end of the world three times and were incorrect, 1914, 1925, 1975. i asked doesn't that make them false prophets?
her response; " no, because the brothers are imperfect and jehovah knew their heart was in a sincere place.
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well, I hope they are false, and failed prophets indeed. for : in the Kingdom Rules book they are currently studying, page 228, paragraph 16 wt writers give this prophesy:
" --co-rulers with Christ will receive authority-- wielding an iron rod of destruction against all enemies of "god's kingdom", in other words you and I. and
do not hold your breath to see divine vengeance against wolves in sheep clothing, that false prophets really are, - to be executed, because . no other wt, bible threat has ever materialized, except in retrospect.