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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

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  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  V:-""-Yeah, that's not true. a good point, the country in particular should have been mentioned, in the case, Canada. I have seen a "refugee" claimant standing on the American side of the yellow line at a border crossing, and a lawyer already present to get him to have his shout of "refugee" recognized to cross that painted border line. It will take years to remove frivolous claimants; cheaper to just pay the benefits, that over all exceed Canadian senior low income help. Germany, that you cite. a different system, more rigid, but generous for all comers. and in both countries a major organized crime problems* replicating conditions these migrants fled from. Generous countries importing the troubles of the world, and financing it. Politics gone wrong. Making a mockery of the legal immigration process

  * not stopping at blowing planes out of the sky, notorious gang wars, honor killings.
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  Twelve Days of Evolution - A video a Day

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the guys and girls at "it's ok to be smart".. stay curious!.

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  How do creationists explain infanticide? --for the jw creationist kind, It's satan's fault. Perhaps A&E had a daughter too, timed between the boys, and the real reason Abel got killed by Cain was that he wanted to keep his genes moving forward.
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  Can somebody explain the songs and songbook obsession?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been out a while and have only put in a rare appearance at a memorial or brief visit at a convention/assembly to keep people off my back, so i haven't kept up on the songbook.

  but one thing i've noticed that the org.

  has been doing that they never did when i was in is all these "supplemental songs" that keep appearing.

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  DNcall "-- It's like shooting pool with a rope." I can not see how to bridge that gap across to the new generation. When I feel about heavenly music I trend toward Bach, but great melodies were written in the last 75 years, For some reason the wt retains melodies that were inspired by the dire conditions in the KZ camps, out-stubborning the SS guards musically. This might presage things to come for jws, but sometimes it seems that these ugly marches, minor key hymns are designed to condition, to harden the r&f for the things to come, fall in line for this. Can there be melodies written for the young that will generate the awe of the classics?
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  Blatant Lie, or Unwitting Contradiction?

  by OneFingerSalute in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just a comment here about the idiocy of this mornings wt.. in one paragraph that was yapping about faith and prayer the writers made the statement that faith could be shown by praying for material things, not just spiritual things.

  they used the "give us this day our daily bread" quote.. a couple paragraphs later they said prayers are only answered if they were in harmony with god's will.. so i guess it is god's will that my frail very elderly parents are virtually ignored by the congregation they are in.

  i guess it is god's will that after over 135 years combined time in duh troof between them they are kicked to the curb, accused of being selfish, unloving and they are laughed at and ridiculed by the eldurrs, the eldurrs families, and sheeple in general because of the frailties of old age.. they (that congregation) will be damned by god for their cruelty..

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  $13 "--This work requires that we have faith in God’s timing of the coming end of this system of things, believing that “it will not be {too} late!” [Hab. 2:3)] One way to measure--"

  Hope not to derail, --I was struck by the statement above, tying faith to the dating attempts of the wt, and faith is expressed by the measure of service to proclaim the end comings soon, (but really around 2075, if you follow David Splane's logic. )
  
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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  never a jw: Assuming that greater help is given to immigrants than citizens, I would say that there is an economical incentive , or a political incentive. Look at Merkel and her 1000 000 newcomers this year alone. Consider the 3 recently arrived minority members of a small, religious minority, in the new government cabinet, that came out of a recent election.(result of minority block voting). and: Anyone can declare himself a "refugee" receive immediate benefits, including a free lawyer, whereas normal immigrants wait for years and are expected to pay fees for every move. The immigration/refugee industry "loves this idea"
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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  LUHE: Plus, if every country took in a share of refugees, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

  "Refugees" do not want to go to every country. Their choice is strictly based on the amount of taxpayers money they can harvest. They want to end up in Sweden, England, germany, Canada (the Ocean gets in the way there). Australia does it right 'refugee benefits' here are a place to sleep, food, some medical, and safe wait offshore until you can return safely home.

  Look at the scenes in Calais, across Europe, This is not flight from war anymore, more like a scramble on black Friday. Help the victims by all means." Immigration is good. I think --"too, Fmf.
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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

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  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  Or, spend the money on the education of your citizen children of long time tax payers first. the student debt, cost of education of the young is a scandal. Much of the "foreign aid" ends up in swiss accounts too.
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  How Deep was your search in Bible or Religions ?

  by Kick50r in

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  2. bible

  how far / deep was your research on the origins of the bible or religions or most importantly the concepts (heaven -gods - immortality-etc)today many millions of people believe as the truth?.

  why did these concepts existed ?.

  why so many people today still believe in these concepts ?.

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  I am as shallow as they come, I embraced the "truth" by studying the "Make sure of all things" by myself, from then on all wt material. Even now, where and how it came from, is of secondary importance to me, since just comparing these text with reality is enough to see them totally discredited. but, learning every day thank you.
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  What Are The Possibilities That The FBI Is Investigating The Watchtower Corporation Because Of All Child Molestation And Scandle

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just reading this news clip about a mayor from my home town of waterbury, ct how was given a 37 year sentence for raping to minor girls.

  the fed were watching him " trying to determine whether giordano was taking bribes from a mafia building contractor, fbi agents learned he was systematically raping the 9- and 11-year old daughter and niece of a prostitute in his office in the city hall.".

  http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-philip-giordano-appeal-sex-charges-20151204-story.html.

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  Do not underestimate the reach of the FBI, they nailed the FIFA crooks, about Football corruption, no, not the NFL, the European, Brazilian, African kind. socked it to soccer,
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  What Are The Possibilities That The FBI Is Investigating The Watchtower Corporation Because Of All Child Molestation And Scandle

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was just reading this news clip about a mayor from my home town of waterbury, ct how was given a 37 year sentence for raping to minor girls.

  the fed were watching him " trying to determine whether giordano was taking bribes from a mafia building contractor, fbi agents learned he was systematically raping the 9- and 11-year old daughter and niece of a prostitute in his office in the city hall.".

  http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-philip-giordano-appeal-sex-charges-20151204-story.html.

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  The FBI investigates any Interstate crime, Since The new wt headquarters sits right near the NY/NJ state line*, some activity could come under their scrutiny. Just let a pedophile take a kid across state line "for the purpose of", it is a federal felony.

  * not upstate NY which is up to 400 km away.