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  global warming/ tidal rise.. etc

  by zeb in

  1. social
  2. current

  reports that if the greenland ice sheet melts and the western sheet of antarctica do the same then the oceans will rise in a generation by as many as( 8 is mentioned) metres.

  now what is the above sea level height of the ny wt buildings?

  or the new palace they are building elsewhere in ny.. food for thought?

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  Warwick NY will still be 150 meters above the new warmer ocean heights, it will be better for the surfing bethel members a shorter drive to the beach, but not as good anymore as Brooklyn to Coney island, doable before breakfast.
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  Yearbook 2016: Annual Report (15177 Partakers)

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the 2016 yearbook is up on jw.orgbranches of jehovahs witnesses: 89 (was 90)number of lands reporting: 240 (was 239)total congregations: 118016 (was 115416)worldwide memorial attendance: 19,862,763 (was 19,950,019) decreasememorial partakers worldwide: 15,177 (was 14,121 in 2013:13,204) large increasepeak of publishers in kingdom service: 8,220,105 (was 8,201,205) minor increaseaverage publishers preaching each month: 7,987,279 (was 7,867,958)percentage of increase over 2014: 1.5 (was 2.2)total number baptized: 260,273 (was 275,581)average auxiliary pioneer publishers each month: 443,504 (was 635,298) huge decreaseaverage pioneer publishers each month: 1,135,210 (was 1,089,446)total hours spent in field: 1,933,473,727 (was 1,945,487,604) decreaseaverage home bible studies each month: 9,708,968 (was 9,499,933)

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  At the current annual increase when will they reach 144,000? Blondie. --a rough guestimate put that year to be 2034. so, WT has put the total F&DS starting at 1919. They could see the fulfillment of all the anointed in the overlapping generation in our lifetime, by 2034. who needs the apostles anyway.
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  If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  doesn't that throw off the date?.

  *** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.

  in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

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  Nothing would give more meaning to one's life than being a player in a cosmic event, and millennianists grasped at straws to find proof of their greatness, using numerology* to bridge the gap to the past, fudging as they went along. They ignored one of the true sayings of "Jesus" Acts 1:7 " --it is not given to you to understand times and seasons--" . Even physicists labor on that one. Is time a river flowing by or are we moving through time? Measuring time is the easy part, unless you start overlapping.

  *** numerology: 360x400=144 000
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  If a year is really 365 1/4 days why 360 days to calculate 1914

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  doesn't that throw off the date?.

  *** w51 6/15 p. 383 questions from readers ***.

  in establishing the length of the seven times of the gentiles, a time or year of 360 days is used, to give 2,520 days, which become 2,520 years when ezekiel 4:6 is applied.

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  Phizzy, when you deduct 38 from 1914 you get 1876 you are then in the ballpark of 1878 if you deal with cardinal numbers.

  Blondie's link:"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. so: forgetting about 1914 will be the end of that trouble.
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  What made you turn atheist or agnostic?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you were a jw and are now an atheist or agnostic, what was the tipping point that made you turn to it?.

  the reason i ask is i have noticed that many who leave the jw's seem to turn to atheism, versus still having some form of a faith.

  have many of you given up on god first or have you had atheistic views first and then found atheism to be true.

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  Oubliette:------this particular "god" has no benefit or use--"

  Why would we expect to have personal benefits beyond the great gift of life and all it's great possibilities? should we expect to be able to harness the services of a creator for our personal benefit beyond what is provided through the energy, matter, space, time and laws that can work so well for us? why is it so hard to play with the deck of cards we are dealt! -- should the rules of the game be suspended, even magic tricks performed in order for us to win to the detriment of others?

  As we narrow, close the "gaps" of knowledge, how things work, how it was done, will become clearer, and we can improve in our works too.
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  How long will Paradise remaineth? Does Genesis 8:22 give us some kind of inidication?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower 6/15/1953 pg 371 though their annual periods were not calculated to the fraction of the day, there was no mistaking the seasons of the year, since jehovah had said, while the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.gen.

  although jehovah's witnesses believe that paradise earth will remain forever, why does there own watchtower library 2014 software state otherwise?.

  original word: part of speech: substantive; adverb accusative; adverb.

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  Life has existed on this Earth for ~ 4 billion years, not exactly paradise, life made possible by the death of redundant creatures, so, W H I L E it lasts, individually, enjoy iy to the full. BSW: Is that a quote from the talking snake story?
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  Wooly Mammoths

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a jw came to my door a while back and used wooly mammoths as evidence for noah's flood.

  he was a bit older, so i thought this must be some oddball out-of-date teaching of jehovah's witnesses.

  i could remember something in the insight book about frozen mammoths, but not much else.

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  The frozen Mammoth is a canard, red herring, because the fall of a water canopy would have resulted in an immense energy release, it would have been resulted in steamed, boiled buried Mammoth instead.
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  Orgone Energy and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Phaedra in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a little process writing ... with a some tongue-in-cheekiness tossed in.

  i pulled out my copy of this book, which i still have with all the highlighted answers and scriptures written in the margins when i was a tween and teen studying to get baptized.

  my whole existence was based on the ideas in this book being real and true and i lived my life accordingly, sacrificing myself to the jehovah's witnesses organization, with nothing to show for it.

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  Did Reich live in Austria during the 3rd Reich? did he know that the other Austrian in that other 1000 year Reich had only one exposed ball? did Hitler only store 1/2 of his orgone energy? or is it all gone? currently history buffs in Europe are having a (1) ball with that.
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  Generation Teaching Hall of Shame chart

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a much simpler chart and replaces the old one which was getting too difficult to maintain.. direct link: http://oi68.tinypic.com/voy2qs.jpg.

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  Note the flip flop shown between the center DS chart and the yellow wt mag 1984. Note: In the Chart the anointed generation will not enter the Great Tribulation, are absent at Armageddon, but the yellow wt mag reads : " some of them will not pass away until all things occur. Not just the timing is wrong, the identity too.

  Note that the life line for the generation stops prior to The Great Tribulation/ Armageddon field with David, in accord with their rapture teaching.
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  I have doubts... can you help me??- A new idea

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perplexed as to how to brung my wife out of jws and to exit the religion... but i had an idea last night.

  i know that elders will legitimantly meet with brothers who have doubts and encourage them... not df them .. this is a sheperding call etc.. thus since my wife knows i have doubt s i could say: i want to have two brother over to discuss this ... she will agree.... of course i will hit these guys with biblical textual issues, an biology to where they are stunned and still ask... "so brothers... can you solve this conflict...?".

  in this case they will not think of me as an apostate but may question their own beliefs... .

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  If you live in an area that has as its main male occupation, "Lumberjack", that is, swinging the axe, the result would be you getting the axe, rather than your wife becoming convinced of the truth about the truth. The elder's lack of knowledge on deep subjects, as a fact, might be already suspected by your wife, she needs not convincing of that. Elders hate nothing more than having their ignorance exposed, to be challenged, since their claim to fame, their authority is their wt appointment, and challenging the wt authority is a sure start on the road to df status. ,