Imagine if the contemporaries to the Chinese, in the garden of eden could have mixed some of the forbidden and life-giving fruit in with the mix, reinheitsgebot or not. ctrwtf
prologos
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Humans only been here 6,000 years but at least they were drunk!
by notsurewheretogo inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-36365967.
great article...chinese were brewing beer 5,000 years ago.... not bad considering it's not far off adam & eve... :).
.. .. chinese drinkers may have been brewing beer as many as 5,000 years ago, new research suggests.. us and chinese researchers say they found traces of barley, millet, grain, and tubers used in fermentation.. it was found on pottery discovered in shaanxi province in northern china during an archaeological dig 10 years ago.. it would be the earliest known instance of beer-making in china and suggest a sophisticated approach.. published in the us proceedings of the national academy of sciences, the study also suggested that barley may have been used for booze before being used for food.. as every home-brewer knows, funnels are an essential piece of kit.
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Saved by Baptism and the Start of the G.T.
by berrygerry inso, the official teaching is that baptism saves jw's from armageddon (1 peter 3:21), in the same way that the ark saved noah (jesus - not sure why jesus needs saving, though), his wife (the remnant - wt aug 15, 1990) and the six others (the other sheep - wt sep 1, 1989).. jehovah himself shut the door of the ark, and after seven days, the rain started to fall.
this shutting of the door corresponds to the start of the g.t., afterwhich no one can become baptized and saved, but must live with their personal agony throughout the g.t., knowing that they were this close to being inside the ark.. now, let's say that the g.t.
starts on the third saturday of april, 13:00 (1:00 pm) greenwich time, and the g.t.
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And why did the fallen sons of God not clear out a floor or two of the ark, and haul in a bunch of girls and women to keep the sex-party going?
The physics have been worked out, and the floodwaters must have benn quite hot, fallen from that hights, so, may be they got stuck in a hot tub-like scene, after all rain was a novelty, hot rain--add sex, --why bother the goats?
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Another generation....
by joey jojo init has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
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Fisherman: "-- But since God's HS points to the wt, I must go along with it and that is my position. Inspite of that, one cannot go around teaching that--" If you still go form H2H, you are teaching that though, including the overlapping group anointed generation to last possibly to 2075. We went to the doors with the premise, that we are right, and the householder is wrong. well look back to the "superior Authority" fiasko.just as one example.
Of course wt writer want to make sense of it all, score any hit like they did in 1914, although except the date, everything was wrong. so did early bible writers, guessing how creatin works, no help from the creator or His Spirit whatsoever. so, TD has a point, there always are generations coming and going. Look to science what it generates in the generations to come.
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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)
by Poztate inin the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
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If I knew the authorities were coming to the bunker to get me, I wouldn't be there. The authorities would be the least of my worries, particularly the wimps that now protect, uphold the state in Europe.
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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)
by Poztate inin the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
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thanks for earning us, I will not allow my children to watch it, will take them to the washroom for the duration, spent enough time in my youth in real bunkers. -
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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)
by Poztate inin the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
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Think of Archie Bunker to laff it off. -
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Saved by Baptism and the Start of the G.T.
by berrygerry inso, the official teaching is that baptism saves jw's from armageddon (1 peter 3:21), in the same way that the ark saved noah (jesus - not sure why jesus needs saving, though), his wife (the remnant - wt aug 15, 1990) and the six others (the other sheep - wt sep 1, 1989).. jehovah himself shut the door of the ark, and after seven days, the rain started to fall.
this shutting of the door corresponds to the start of the g.t., afterwhich no one can become baptized and saved, but must live with their personal agony throughout the g.t., knowing that they were this close to being inside the ark.. now, let's say that the g.t.
starts on the third saturday of april, 13:00 (1:00 pm) greenwich time, and the g.t.
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Since the concorde is retired, they are out of luck, just like all of Noah's living relatives, parents--chainsaws to cut your way in were not available yet. -
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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)
by Poztate inin the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .
(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.
i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?
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Lets not forget where the danger came from during the passover in Egypt. Families hunkered down in their houses, fearing for their firstborn. At least later, there was wine service. -
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let it be resolved: The remnant can not be the generation of Mat. 24.
by prologos indebating challenge: since the wt doctrine of the anointed generation must conform to bible teachings, and math 24 stipulates that the "generation " outlives "all these things" , and the anointed do not, how could they possibly be the generation, overlapping or not?
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To those that contend, that "the generation" is defined by all features of the sign of Christ's invisible presence only,
when he said "all things", did he mean the intriguing prophetic possibilities, or was he emphasizing the terrible events that were to occur that are part of that text?
why would" the days [have] to be be cut short on account of the "chosen ones" if they are not to be alive, if they are to be already raptured, according to the wt published pre-Armageddon time table? ?
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Another generation....
by joey jojo init has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?
the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.
the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.
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Fisherman your sincerity is admirable, I do not know about TD, but we have discussed cold facts here, without regard that there is a deeper malaise, If there was no talking snake, that we are living a normal, not sinful life, that there is no original sin, but the glory of life in us as it was developing as expected. That we are normal creatures, not degenerate adams, but survivors in the reaching for the future. We wanted to show, that the details do not fit the picture and even the picture might not be what reality is. p.