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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Believer: "Prologos, it can be confusing when we start labeling ourselves and each other – atheist, deist, theist, etc. I really don’t know which definition fits me.--"

  accepting a labeling into a category, can be timesaving, as each belief system has a definition, and a list of personalities that held those convictions; and then,-- rather than at length defining personal beliefs, one can proceed to precise questions like: "-- why as a deist do you believe that the maker is now personally involved in evolving events at all?" --no, because--
  
  
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  welcome believer, I am a theist, believing that the universe did not make itself, but that we as a race, as life, but particularly as persons, are special, but - might not be as important as we believe we are. so: I am not that kind of a believer you might be talking about in the PO.

  I stand corrected, thank you cofty, I meant deist, and my mind is slipping, no spirit watching over it.
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  Filipino man claims death threats from members of powerful Christian church - Iglesia Ni Cristo

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. beliefs

  lowell menorca says he fears persecution from the iglesia ni cristo.

  they say his claims are 'fabrications''.

  by eric rankin, gavin fisher, cbc news posted: jun 14, 2016 2:00 am pt last updated: jun 14, 2016 10:52 am pt.

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  I think these guys have more members then the JWs. and they pay 10% come rain or shine.
  
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  How to wind up a JW

  by slimboyfat in

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  tell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.

  pop.

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  Come to think of it the only mention of relieving ones self was a pagan, was he not? --

  how about david standing back as Saul did his job in a cave with lifted coat tails? cavemen all.
  
  
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  How to distract people from the REAL issues... (2016 convention videos)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have we noticed how the videos that are being shown at the 2016 convention manipulatively try to misdirect from the real issues?.

  the video showing the daughter "leaving the truth" and leaving (kicked out) home has been designed to show that her life falls apart because she "left the truth".. then the video series about the "persecution" paranoia speaks about a brother who is not being saved with them in the basement "because he let fear of man etc" affect him.

  then the video all about sergei's life speaks about his old friend who "let information about the truth make him have doubts" and he is no longer "in the truth" with them...and made out like it is worse than murdering and eating a kitten!.

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  great points. Of what little I watched, listened to, the supposed potential causes for being "not saved" seem trivial, like not appreciating counsel, for example.-- the shallowest, no substance - convention ever, shaping the kind of jw the org likes.
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  Islam is a religion of peace (2)

  by Coded Logic in

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  in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.

  it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.

  and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.

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  He justified his action with his religion. Not much different from SS who burned Slavic villages from Czech to Russia down to Serbia because their National Socialist ideology considered Slavs inferior. Kalk.

  Glad you brought in the comparison to war, for this one is fought on many fronts too. and war has it's Lidices, Oradours, May Lays and Dresdens. and Orlandos? All targets are perceived to be inferior.
  
  
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  "Please consider contributing" -- is this for real?

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. tech-support

  i have started seeing requests for contributions at the bottom of the screen.. why the change?

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  if it would be the real thing, many faders could not contribute, because it would show up on their joint account statements, and the auditor would have a way to nail the place where your heart is.
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  WTS buys £1,000,000 luxury sea-front property in Wales, UK

  by Simon in

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  2. scandals

  shower room.

  office.

  games room.

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  It is how they prove they are spirit directed. The early congregation too was proved to have received the transfer of god's approval in connection with language, Pentecost. no translation needed though. Like Simon said: --learn Chinese" instead, because that property bargain, bought at around ~ 1000 000,- will be worth 8 888 888,- soon, if the worldwide trend continues. and

  like the appreciated properties in Brooklyn, this gem is near a last bridge before the sea? sorry, now Verrazano.
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  DOOM and LUXURY : the Watchtower Elite prepares for the GREAT TRIBULATION

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  boondoggles and preppers watchtower style!

  a religion of doom and luxury!.

  in 1866, the times of london wrote:.

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  "The Watchtower Organization in 2014 made the purchase for $ 1,425,400.00." -- that is what I call a bargain.
  
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  Absolute blind obedience. No accountability.

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it's interesting to observe that in all aspects of life, leaders are accountable to those they lead.. politicians must fulfil their promises, or they are replaced from government.. business corporate leaders like ceos must perform, or they are replaced.. sports coaches and trainers must win, or they are replaced.. yet there are leaders who have often been wrong, have made serious ,mistakes and failed predictions that have impacted the lives of millions.. they have dictated decisions for the lives of millions, yet they can't even be questioned...even in a sincere or polite manner..

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  Since it is not given to man to direct his own step, how dare wt (imperfect) demand lock-step obedience of their followers at pain of disfellowshipping? blind obedience = kadavergehorsam , because you are dead one way or another.