Posts by prologos

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

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Cold Steel: +-- Worship is a way of recognizing the dominance and authority of God, accepting His laws as binding.

I accept that,- for the laws of Nature, that have a created origin, and most moral laws. Therefore, the more accurate our understanding of these laws and works, and the applying of them are, the closer we are to be in harmony with the creator, but not necessarily to worship in the conventional sense. Of course there were carnivores millions of years ago, but the bible does not say so, meat eating was only granted after the flood. Lyons ate straw in Eden, in the ark and will again in the panda-petting paradise. Revelations are a fabrication, or delusion. Even the revealed - sounding "In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth--" is in error, the creator of the natural laws would never reveal error. So to me, today the real bearer of truth aka worshippers are scientists.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

prologos

Perry: "Yes.The parable of the wheat and the tares make it evident the the distinction would become blurred in time.

Was it not the other way around, at germination, and early growth, tares look even prettier than wheat, so it is, True worship looks emptier now than before, for evidence of a worship-craving god is lacking, worship craving glorious ones abound.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

prologos

CS: "--You misrepresent the story

It is a great culture, (not the wt), that has developed under the auspices of the talking snake story, but the believers have to be shaken out of this basis of their belief. and i did not misrepresent the facts of the story. meat was not allowed until the flood. hence Abel sacrificed garbage, fertilizer at best. God did not command worship, it was a spontaneous action invented by humans. The bible story was the best guess at the time, we have moved on, and our actions, aka worship, should be based on what makes further progress. imho.

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Logical Problem with WT Anointed

by Vanderhoven7 in

the watchtower september 1, 1951, in a wonderful article entitled “hated for his name”(pp518,519) describes the persecution and martyrdom of steadfast christians in the first 3 centuries ad.. by the year (a.d.) 64 christianity was.

prominent throughout much of the roman.

empire, including the capital city.

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As an aspiring member of the 144k "Royal Priesthood" you have to choose your method of execution well, Crucifixion, drinking molten lead will not do. Rev 20:4 prescribes the axe. That pares down the 7 ooo ooo confirmed martyrs some, and definitely eliminates Fred Franz, who died of Brain problems from the eligible candidates.

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JW refugees and politics

by Anders Andersen in

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in the netherlands, an action going on to get two brothers from sierra leone a residence permit.. the men fled the horrible civil war in their country when 14 and 11 years old.

without parents.. they have now lived in the netherlands more than half of their lives.

they are well educated, have nothing in sierra leone and everything in the netherlands.

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May be wt thinks they would be best "serving" in their home country with their Dutch-required education?

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

prologos

Even in the earliest bible story, god did not take the initiative, demanding to be worshipped, but when Cain and Abel invented religion, he "liked the idea" (quote from Splane). Strangely, ABEL burned some of the meat that was piling up, (nobody, even dogs would eat it) , and god quoted Splane again ," like it" ( the carrion, carry on), and from there, the true worshipper story goes downhill.

On the bright side, God must be a creator (how else did all that stuff get here), and true worshippers, don't worship, wasting meat and vegetables and time. , but create, provide, they find out how creation works, and re-create.

Cold Steal: "--It would certainly help if you guys took a few theology courses before posting things like this.

You can't be serious, you believe in the talking snake story? I just wanted to pointed out the absurdity of it all,

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

prologos

Even in the earliest bible story, god did not want to be worshipped, but when Cain and Abel invented it, he "liked the idea" (quote from Splane). strangely, Cain burned some of the meat that was piling up, (nobody even dogs would eat it) , and HE quoted Splane again ," like it" From there the story goes downhill.

The bright side, God must be a creator, and true worshippers, dont worship, wasting meat and vegetables and time. , but create, provide, they find out how creation works, and re-create.

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It's a sign! It's a sign I tell you!

by darkspilver in

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but where is the sign?

maybe it should have a third sign?

don't worry, the lovely brothers and sisters at the deauville congregation want to say hello to caleb and sophia.

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A lower echelon city employee allowed the witnesses to pay for the making and putting up of the CULT sign, but city council opposition questioned it in a session that was about tax increases for 5 star hotels, but the religion question was subject one, The Mayor defended the traffic department, despite the "obscure doctrines" of the cult. They ban the burka but almost advertise the Org on traffic signs? , weel, as long they classify it as a CULT for the english visitors.

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It's a sign! It's a sign I tell you!

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

but where is the sign?

maybe it should have a third sign?

don't worry, the lovely brothers and sisters at the deauville congregation want to say hello to caleb and sophia.

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Like all french texts, it is wordy, but the got it right, they call it a "CULTe" , and les freres. did not get the Org on the placard

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At last something about JWs on a German news site.

by Driving Force in

for anybody who understands german.. http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/masha-16-jahre-zeugin-jehovas-article18689741.html.

it is quite rare that a german news site actually puts something up about jws, after all they are insignificant from a newsworthy point of view.

but i like the fact that they have put this up..

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she says that when leaving, she realized, it was not "the world" but the witnesses that sapped her energy, well written, thanks for posting

TOH: "- wonder in what religious group she was raised - could not have been JWs if movies, music and wine were taboos.

She referenced the strict upbringing in her family, who, in the black and white world of the german soul, could have been more restrictive than official wt guidelines.