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  At the mouth of 2-3 witnesses a matter is established .Gods word the bible proves a generation is 50 years +, or - 5 years

  by smiddy in

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  jehovah`s witnesses make a big deal about the 2 or 3 witnesses in judicial decisions yet they ignore that evidence when it suits them.. firstly :.

  regarding the length of a generation matthew ch.1:17 gives a strong clue ,their are 3 lots of 14 generations mentioned which equal 42 generations from the time of abraham to jesus .. watchtower publications give abrahams birth as 2018 bc......they also give jesus birth as of 2 bc a period of 2016 years .

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  as I said on another thread: the wt generation is an anointed generation with 2, perhaps more overlapping groups, Anointed means the 144 000 of Rev. 14, the "- undefiled with woman-" The Freddy Franzes, that are not held to the reproductive father, son, grandson generation model, and then these are the sterile wt groups, wt:--oops.

  added: Jesus of course said that the generation would survive the destruction and would go on producing . the wt anointed generation, as charted, is supposed to be dead before the destruction, taken to heaven. From its conception, the wt anointed generation was a bible-doctrinal stillbirth, , the end of the 1914 line.
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  1000 Years is Like 1 Day?

  by Sorry in

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  anyone else hear about this.

  as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.

  quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).

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  James, imagine if you lived forever, the shortening of the time impression. It affects the reaction time too, perhaps that is why prophecies are never fulfilled, wt puts them too close. The overlapping generation groups end at ~2016, that is only 2 and 1/2 hours away, awake! waky waky. or wacky?
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  1000 Years is Like 1 Day?

  by Sorry in

  1. watchtower
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  anyone else hear about this.

  as all j-dubs know, whenever someone complains about how long the "new system" is taking too arrive, they use the excuse that jehovah works on his own time.

  quite a few times during the public talks, i've heard speakers say the phrase "1000 years to us is only one day to jehovah" (my parents never stop talking about this).

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  2 Peter 3:8 - ".........one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." King James Version

  According to this, god's time observation would both be very detailed, like in slow motion, and rapid like in a sped-up film. Acts 1:7 says we can't understand time, and scientists agree, is it a 4th dimension? or just sequencing of events, locations?. An eternal creator would not live in a knife-edg -size "now" present, of a non-stop movement through time - as we do, and if he really inspired the bible or the GB, he would do so in understandable, true terms, which he has not done. obviously. or?

  The fast part of the scripture debunks the slow part, that jws like to use as an excuse for their failed prophecies.
  
  
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  Intelligent design thought.

  by Crazyguy in

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  ok god designed this planet and then most everything on it intelligently yet 97% of the water on the earth is un drinkable.

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  Creatures that live in the oceans must feel that electro-chemical mix to be just perfect. we have also evaporation, a near perfect desalination process, condensation in clouds, rain, snow, which gives us non swimmers the pure stuff we crave. perhaps not specially designed, but that is how the laws that came through the big bang made it turn out, or in. so: Move to a river, the Nile, or the Severn, which has great "fresh"water surfing.-- Did not wt buy a "translation office" at it's banks?
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  Generation of 1914 enjoys another Cubs World Series win!

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

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  for the first time in 108 years, the chicago cubs won the mlb 2016 world series, which is not news to too many of us.

  but the volunteers at warwick bethel have an interesting opportunity today.

  they can congratulate tony morris on seeing another chicago cub win.

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  The Brooklyn Dodger aka wt did not have a real touchdown since 1879, they play in the wrong league, bible religiosity, should have moved to the boondocks right then, not 2016. Their star performer Rutherford, actually moved Beth partially to California earlier than 1957.
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  Fudging The Numbers JW Style

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. scandals

  i know most of us have probably figured this out already, but remember the good old days where you could only count full hours in the ministry?.

  then one of the gb get some "new light" from their ass and proclaim that they lovingly will allow people to report 30mins, then even 15mins of time.

  this was, supposedly, so that the old and infirm could have a joy in the ministry and report what little they could do.

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  that is how 10 minutes per year for every inhabitant of the planet everywhere are arrived at, 10 minutes of kingdom good news now, and for a 100 years.
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  Generation of 1914 enjoys another Cubs World Series win!

  by OneGenTwoGroups in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for the first time in 108 years, the chicago cubs won the mlb 2016 world series, which is not news to too many of us.

  but the volunteers at warwick bethel have an interesting opportunity today.

  they can congratulate tony morris on seeing another chicago cub win.

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  I just had the brainwave why flipper's 20-30 year procreating generation has been changed by wt to the overlapping anointed: The anointed, according to Rev. 14 (I know, it's symbolic, but) , are "undefiled with women", non-procreating.--They are the childless anointed overlappers like Fred. Franz, not T.Morris. Franz was alive in 108, but 5 years away from his baptism in 1913, 6 from 1914. Wt still celebrates their home run of 1914, althoug the replay shows they cheated, only the date was real, the rest fluff. wt dropped the ball in 1914, and they know it, wt has not had real a hit since 1879, really not ever.
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  Argument for JDubs or any Fundi's

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  jehovah's witnesses believe:.

  1. man was created in 4026 bce.

  2. a global flood occurred in 2370 bce.

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  These details should be brought up again and again. We wish wt made it mandatory for all public speakers to sign a pledge to believe these dates, before going up on the platform; perhaps then they would have to make it womandatory. The Egyptians were building pyramids while the flood water overlapped the top of everest.
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  "The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

  by smiddy in

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  that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

  " "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

  have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

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  not infallible? so, when are they going to fall?

  AnV: "-- overlapping generation" as pure BS

  the real error is in the anointed generation. it does not pass the test. The generation is supposed to survive the destruction. the anointed will not even get close, will be dead, called to heaven before. so, will they go back to the general population generation? at least there will be some 116 year olds overlapping, buy wt another 30-40 years.
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  Imperfect Spiritual Food

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

  this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

  again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

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  did Jesus not say "--food at the proper (perfect) time--?". Since dates*** seem to be the main ingredients of the wt fare, with the always and still wrong expiration date, how can the wt output even be classified as proper food?

  *** not the palm plant, the face palm.