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  Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?

  by sir82 in

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  there was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.

  remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".

  the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.

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  Sir : "--She was only 5 years old in 1914, certainly not baptized then, so even if "anointed", per the official malarkey, er, doctrine, she could not be part of the "first group" of the "overlapping generation".

  prologos reply: I was referring to anointed "like her", in age, the way David Splane suggested older over-under-lappers "like F. Franz" which would bring us only to ~ 2072-75. If she was baptized as a baby, and anointing usually happens at baptism, she would be of the first, underlapped group.

  
  
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  Did anyone catch the irony in the December JW Broadcast?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was an interview with a 107 year old lady who had been a jw since the age of 10 or so.

  remembers seeing the "photodrama of creation" when it was still a thing, etc.. so she's explaining about herself & her husband witnessing thru the years, 1930's thru now.. she says at one point, her husband called on a guy who said something like "the last time i got a call from a jw, it was 50 years ago in xyz village by a guy on a bike who said armageddon was coming soon.".

  the lady was just so tickled, because the guy on the bike was her husband, who happened to run into the same guy (who remembered him) 50 years later.. and i'm thinking "wait a minute....her husband said 'armageddon was coming soon' 50 years earlier...obviously he was completely wrong.

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  Sir, "--a 107 year old lady who had been a JW since the age of 10 or so

  
  wait a minute, in the truth for 97 years? since 1919, the year the GB, Faithful & Discreet Slave was born? invisibly? witnessed in the 30, so, of the anointed? part of either the overlapped or the overlappers? or both?

  with anointed like her, and overlapping, the great tribulation need not start until 2108, armageddon even later. new light hidden right there.
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

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  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  pon: " I await a big bang that showers me with goodness. --- Will Jehovah(tm) speed it up in his own time?

  The big bang was actually very, very small, but if you were not there, you would not be here now. the goodness ( if any) is in the now, so: create it.

  It will not be sped up, (that is why so many jws are fed up.) but as you age, the fixed markers, years, month, days seem to speed by faster. (it is all in the mind).
  
  
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

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  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  SBF: "--Since time may not always have existed (a contradictory statement - I don't know how to put it). Or since there may be conditions under which there is no such thing as time. Or time may be a way of looking at things rather than an objective reality.

  Anyway since time isn't necessarily the immutable stream we sometimes thought it might be.

  
  Time is not a stream but a dimension through which you might move. (depending on your speed, acceleration) Life has to move through time, because it can not exist at the speed of light, or in a black hole, where movement through time ceases. Movement through time made evolution our emergence possible. Life is moving through time past our death to sharpen the human race. It is not called a race for nothing, the race through time.
  
  
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  Has anyone out here read Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason"?

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  i wish i had read this back when i was 18. it's an amazing take down of religious beliefs, the bible, and religion in general.

  ) a "reason"-able manner.take this quote, from near the beginning:.

  when also i am told that a woman, called the virgin mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, joseph, said that an angel told him so, i have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither joseph nor mary wrote any such matter themselves.

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  T. Paine, For a person that was raised as a believer, to possibly soon face the guillotine and the judgement by his maker and Peter at the gates, that took conviction to debunk the talking snake story, ransom. More Courage than Paul's argument for the resurrection, scardi cat him.
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  PoN: "prologos - Yes. I believe life is just an accident.

  Yeah, life is an accident waiting to happen, it was staged, a set up, a distinct possibility, inevitable even, given the energy, matter and laws that came through the big bang creation event.
  
  
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  What is life?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobo, i used to thing of 'life without end at laaaasssssst'.. having been on my journey out of the wbt$ slaveholdery, i have found that something that makes sense is that life doesn't owe us a meaning.

  psalms 146:4 was actually bangeth on the money-eth 'his breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.'.

  although i am now very atheist, and really do not even think there is the remotest possibility of a god, that bible passage is correct.

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  In the sterile Universe, life has taken on a life of it's own, riding a wave of energy. It is like a relay race, on a crowded track, get the finished racers out of the way, a race driven by the joy of living.
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  Has anyone out here read Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason"?

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
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  i wish i had read this back when i was 18. it's an amazing take down of religious beliefs, the bible, and religion in general.

  ) a "reason"-able manner.take this quote, from near the beginning:.

  when also i am told that a woman, called the virgin mary, said, or gave out, that she was with child without any cohabitation with a man, and that her betrothed husband, joseph, said that an angel told him so, i have a right to believe them or not: such a circumstance required a much stronger evidence than their bare word for it: but we have not even this; for neither joseph nor mary wrote any such matter themselves.

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  Is not true that he wrote that while in a french prison, awaiting an uncertain fate among the chaos of the revolution, thinking this might be his last word?, Writing in prison isolation he had amazing grasp of the details of the scriptural oddities he refuted. a must read.
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  Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?

  by Sorry in

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  i don't want to seem like a jerk.

  i know full well economic times are not the greatest.

  there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.

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  with your own house pushing past 500 000, within sight 1,2 million, who can afford it, even with a o.5% prime rate?
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  Numbers 31:17 and 18

  by schnell in

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  now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

  but all the women children that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.. *sigh*.

  it's not that i haven't seen this passage before.

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  inspired , the holy word of god.