Posts by sunshineToo

Oh, yeah, just as someone mentioned earlier, NEVER get baptized. Then you don't even have to worry about being shunned!!! Because they are not going to. They only shun baptized people, and they could get very technical about this.

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hi im new (help)

by blink sk8 in

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okay?i?m 14 years old.

my father has been a j.w for all of my life.

my parents got divorced when i was 6, and then my mom was later disfellowshiped.

sunshineToo

Hi, blink!

Welcome to the board. I have to say that you are very insightful young woman/man. I understand what you are going through. I for myself decided to disassociate myself about 1 1/2 years ago and let me tell ya, I was going through the similar situation. In fact many of us here have.

May I suggest "Crisis of Conscience" by Raymond Franz? You probably don't know who he is or who he was. I didn't know either before I read his book. He was one of the Governing Body Members, who got disfellowshiped unjustly. He basicly tells his side of story and more including 1975. This book was my eye opener. Before I read this, whenever I asked about the past of Watchtower Society, all jws told me that all the negative things about them were lies. Well, well, guess who was lying? After reading this I got my proof (thanks to Ray Franz's references and the Watchtower CD Rom), and ask the same question again to the same jws. Then they told me that all those things really happened, but we are not supposed to talk about it, and not even to have those "negative thoughts."

Argh, I've been thinking lately that I was so stupid and naive. Don't be afraid, blink. Those Watchtower people were supposed to be stoned to death several times if we were still under Moseic Law. Keep in touch with your mom. Tell her your thoughts. Start building REAL friendship with other people. Your so called "friends" at the kingdomhall will shun you and treat you like gross sinner if you leave their organization. They are not going to even look at you. But don't be afraid. Keep your chin up.

Remember that you are the one who stands up for what is right, and that you are the one who refuses to trade your own conscience for injustice and lies.

You can click on my profile and email me anytime you want.

Love

SunshineToo

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Gay Marriage in SF

by rem in

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i live in the best city in the whole wide world... er at least in the us.

:) and, yes, i voted for mayor newsom too - my first vote ever!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/law/02/12/gay.marriage.california.ap/index.html .

sunshineToo

Hey, rem! I live in the SF Bay Area, too.

Well, my husband is really against homosexuals (he said that because he is a Christian.) For me, I'm more neutral. I don't think homosexual is natural, but if they want to get married and have families, that's not my decision to make. I had known homosexual people (they were really nice. I miss them sometimes) before, and love Queer Eye for a Straight Guy.

If they want to get married, I wouldn't oppose. But I guess still many people value the moral standard based on the Bible.

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Does your past define you?

by Princess in

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they were discussing this on the radio this morning.

are you defined by what you have done in your past, or is it the present experiences that define you?.

the dj and tracey lawrence (country singer) were trying to emphasize that we are defined by what we do now as opposed to our past.. are we as a group here an exception?

sunshineToo

I think so. I am what I am now because of what I was in the past.

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Does a sex offender deserve another chance for a new life?

by sunshineToo in

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take for example carry verse.

hospital said that he was dangerous.

but he said that he was a new man (a jw), and wanted to build up a new life.

sunshineToo

Take for example Carry Verse. Hospital said that he was dangerous. But he said that he was a new man (a jw), and wanted to build up a new life.

What do you think? If he moves into your neighborhood, how would you feel?

For me, I would treat him as normal as possible (like greeting at the store and on the street), but still will be very cautious around him. I would not be alone with him or would not let my children go near him.

Where is Carry Verse?

by sunshineToo in

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the infamous sex offender carry verse, who is now a jw, was missing this morning.. has anyone heard any update on that?

sunshineToo

The infamous sex offender Carry Verse, who is now a jw, was missing this morning.

Has anyone heard any update on that?

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JW Sex Offender Release Location Secret, Cary Verse, Contra Costa County,CA

by blondie in

i wonder what the elders in his new congregation are thinking?

will he be going door to door?

i wonder what good pr that will generate for the wts?.

sunshineToo

I saw the news the other day. Now he is in Mill Valley. Wait! Didn't Bill go there?

As far as I know all the Mill Valley residents are not happy about their new neighbor.

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Pics of Me and My Daughter...I've Got 'em Uploaded Now...Thanks!

by Frannie Banannie in

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sunshineToo

Wow, you two are so beautiful!!!

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Where were you when you decided to quit being a JW?

by Steve Lowry in

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for me, it was at the hall.

it was an evening meeting.

i felt a kind of mental surge within me brewing and i got and went to the men?s room.

sunshineToo

I was at the District Assembly, and was listening to the chairman's speach about child abuse cases. He didn't deny it, but he said that we shouldn't talk to anyone about it. He said, "if that bothers your conscience, there is something wrong with your conscience."

Then I knew that I could not be a jw anymore.

By the way Steve, where are you from? I knew a jw family whose last name is Lowry.