...'in my mind what you believe should stand up to outside information ('examination'-?)...'...absolutely right committee chairman...your viewpoint is refreshing...truth should never be afraid of being tested...
westiebilly11
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Active JW's and JW Lurkers- Especially JW Defenders and Believers: A Few Questions For You
by OnTheWayOut inwhile there are not too many currently defending the watchtower in this discussion forum, it happens from time to time.
and quite often, there may be new people and lurkers reading these discussions.
i just wanted you to ponder these questions.
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Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse Its Completely Clear
by thedepressedsoul inif youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.
one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.
on december 1 st a new one just popped up.
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westiebilly11
'own their own businesses'?....oh dear...in my old hall all elders were 'non working'....oops.
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Kingdom Hall Money Grab Was for Child Abuse Its Completely Clear
by thedepressedsoul inif youve followed the news lately there are more and more child abuse cases popping up.
one lawyer said he has over 28 cases in the pipeline that are going to be coming out soon.
on december 1 st a new one just popped up.
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westiebilly11
..I'm surprised that cetain perceptive elders didn't see this coming and challenge the gb requests/demands for cong cash....
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Elder Appointments
by MaybeSo indoing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.
which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.
so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.
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westiebilly11
ah yes..always appear to be doing the right thing...appear to be doing field service....very true in my experience of past elders etc....yes there were genuine ones but a certain recently appointed elder was very good at telling others what to do etc but when it came to going out in 'field service' he made certain he took his time.....
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Giant ship vs Noah's Ark
by Simon intake a look at this giant ship that's been built and imagine if would still be large enough to house all the animals on the planet for an extended period of time.. the ship, with modern materials and tools, would take a single person nearly 8,000 years to complete.
how many more people designed it and supplied the materials?
imagine how many trees would be required and how long it would take to transport them alone.. still think noah's ark is feasible?.
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westiebilly11
thank you..just wondered!...
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Giant ship vs Noah's Ark
by Simon intake a look at this giant ship that's been built and imagine if would still be large enough to house all the animals on the planet for an extended period of time.. the ship, with modern materials and tools, would take a single person nearly 8,000 years to complete.
how many more people designed it and supplied the materials?
imagine how many trees would be required and how long it would take to transport them alone.. still think noah's ark is feasible?.
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westiebilly11
..has any remnant of an ark like vessel been found at all?..seem to remember something from a few years ago.....ps enjoying this topic!
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Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!
by DATA-DOG ini just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.
imagine my delight!.
a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.
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westiebilly11
....and I see a black skull just above his left heel....as well as the other images already mentioned..
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Elders: Born-Ins vs Recruits
by breakfast of champions inthis is an unofficial survey.. was curious as to the number of currently serving elders who were born-in and/or raised as jw versus those who were "recruited"( i.e, not born in or raised as jw.).
for instance, right now in the hall i am assigned to:.
2 elders were born-in and/or raised as jws.. 5 were not (recruited as adults).
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westiebilly11
8 elders when I last went year ago....all born ins..as were all the MS.....closed shop....elders average age about 65...
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Since Elders And Mini Servants Have To Be Exemplary How Does Anyone Ever Qualify?
by minimus init seems to me that you must be almost perfect to be a " servant" in the organization today.
no college, no spiritually weak in the family, no disfellowshipped living at home, no tight pants, etc......who can live up to their lofty ideals?.
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westiebilly11
exemplary?..really?...then how did some of the ones I've known ever qualify...oops.
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Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival
by Hidden-Window inmany of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.
the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.
many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.
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westiebilly11
older publications seem written by men who genuinely used their intelligence to explain and reason with readers..but recent publications and articles seem written to indoctrinate by bypassing rational thinking.....I recognise little of the society I knew when i first came/went in some 30 years ago.....they seem to have nothing to say about anything worthwhile..
ps interesting comments 'I'm stuck in' above........