Genuinely good caring discreet and tactful elders are/were hard to find. In my day we had several generous hearted ones who had no oversized ego or bigheadedness. When I left three years ago several of the elders were engaged in interfering with families internal structure and destabilised more than one family. The CO, a rather dysfunctional man at the best of times, enjoyed being centre stage and seemed more concerned with being the centre of the congregation than caring for those at the edges. He has since been 'relocated' as a result of being found guilty of damaging families. Even though I'm out, I will never forget the kindness shown to me by those elders years ago.
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Another Burnt Out Elder
by Spoletta inyoung elder(mid-thirties) in my congregation stepped down last night.
nicest guy, with two lovely kids, a great supportive wife.. it got to be too much, as the other elders are practically useless, let him do all the hard work, while they did all the "important" stuff.
literally ran him ragged.. he's still in good standing, gave the final prayer.
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Is the Mid Week Meeting shorter or longer than before they stopped doing the book study at homes?
by Iamallcool inany takers?.
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Sounds like it's all been dumbed down. So much for nourishing spiritual food at the proper time. In years past it used to be quite a heavy substantial meeting with various talks and at least a spark of initiative. Really does sound like the meeting is banal nowadays...
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Another Young JW dead during childbirth
by Lee Elder inthe latest young jehovah's witness mother to die in childbirth by following the terrible medical advice of watchtower writers.. https://www.niyitabiti.net/2017/02/nigerian-jehovah-witness-allegedly-dies-of-excess-bleeding-during-child-birth-because-church-doesnt-permit-blood-transfusion/.
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One word in opening post website suggests caution....Allegedly. Other factors may have played a part in the death.... 'Make sure of all things' etc etc
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Was Ray Franz Playing The Long Game?
by rory-ks ini'm just making my way through crisis of conscience for the second time and once again i am struck by the presentation of such detailed records.
letters are shown in full - copies of letters from the branch, and to the branch.
reports are quoted vebatim.
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Ray Franz seems to have been a genuine man who painstakingly took the effort to verify truth and factual accounts of what happened....Love reading his books....
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So, the Womens March ... What Is It For?
by Simon init seems like mobilizing after the election, which seems pointless.
i keep hearing demands for equal rights but don't understand what rights they are missing exactly.. normally a march is to show the support (and potential votes) for a cause, but ... votes for what?
... and the election happened already.. is anyone else confused?
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Why are women and others marching to gain rights? Surely, if Obama had done a good job all such rights would exist anyway. If not, then he is to blame for what he didn't do, not Trump for what he hasn't yet done. Time will tell.
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A question for those who still go to the meetings
by no-zombie inand it is ... why do most at the hall prefer to sit at the back and leave front rows empty?.
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Proximity to loos.....generally at back of halls.
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Now THAT is one messed up witness
by pale.emperor inmy youtube channel which has some kingdom hall talks has been getting some very angry and some strange witnesses commenting and defending it.
check out this nutter from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpzkakaki&google_comment_id=z12evtjofrujijrvm22permpenj3tr5vp:.
jw: i am a jehovah's witness and the brother gave a very good talk.
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Interesting discussion...
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There is a NEW Songbook?!
by My Name is of No Consequence ini am not talking about the one that the org came out with in 2010. i am talking about a new one that just came out.
it is completely different or is it just the 135 songs from the 2010 songbook plus the 16 that they have rolled out since then?
my head is spinning!.
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Never underestimate the power to control thoughts/emotions etc that such songs have. Everyone singing the same song, same words, all being gently conditioned to accept ....What might appear banal and dull is actually a vital part of programming..almost sublimal.
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Marking Talks are back!?!?! - New Name!
by thedepressedsoul inwhen i was younger i used to hear about "marking talks" given in the past.
i believe they stopped in the 80's or 90's.
basically, if someone wasn't baptized or doing something unrepentant, they would get a "marking talk" and be treated the same as a df person.
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In my own experience, when I was before a judicial committee hearing, I was told that a 'marking talk' had been given some months earlier , and that I should have heeded it. When I said how would I recognize that such a talk was aimed at me if I had done nothing/was doing nothing wrong, they couldn't reply..Crazy system. Ticking boxes but a corporate failure..
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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..would be nice if 'Jehovah angels' did a little more to look after the vulnerable children in their care.....or perhaps they get a kick out of watching children being abused..since they see everything. The arrogance of 'A Be Leaver' amazes me.....def something false about him/her.....