Very true Prefect. Years ago meetings were focussed on the positive, the upbuilding, the application and study of really quite deep things which , whether true or not in hindsight, did leave you well fed after. In those days I feel people at the hall really did want to understand and make sense of things. These days I see those who still attend meetings bearing miserable faces and disillusion. I know of two or three widowed sisters who are struggling to understand why the system is still here...when they at one time firmly believed that they would see the new system as a couple...so sad. Youngsters too, seem trapped in a family cult not of their choosing, with no way out without suffering isolation.
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Has Watchtower taken the joy out of 'the good news of the kingdom'
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question for the following reason.
i was sitting at the kingdom hall thinking about all the rules, procedures, policies, teachings that each member must follow ......or else!.
at the watchtower study we are reminded of the paradise earth where we will all be the same and happy.
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Thanks For being helpful
by Jrjw into the person who reported me to the elders from here - thank you for making me be able to leave the organisation a whole lot easier and sooner than i'd planned.
you did me a huge favour 😊.
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westiebilly11
I have learned of several local elders who have access to this site. Aside from this being a no no site for JWs it shows their true nature...and their unsuitability to be elders.
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I've Disassociated. It's getting announced tomorrow.
by Heathen Dan inthis is my first post to this site, im pale.emperor's brother:).
first of all, i've left being a jw in june.
since then my family have tried to convince me it's "the truth" and force me to go back even though it's my own decision.
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westiebilly11
Wish you well and hope things work out for you.
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Sister may have had a slight heart attack, do I text her?
by Xanthippe inso my cousin phoned and told me my jw sister was taken to hospital with chest pains and it may have been a slight heart attack or possibly she's starting with angina.
now as some of you know my sisters and brother have had little to do with me for 29 years.
we've met at funerals, or arranged them, but i just thought today what if she did die?
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westiebilly11
Do the right thing. Be true to yourself. Remember that you have to live with yourself. Blood is thicker than water...Be kind.
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The hypocrisy of today's Watchtower
by UnshackleTheChains ini don't really need to explain anything really.
all i can say is that i was gob smacked at the sheer audaciousness of the entire study article.
i'm still speechless.
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westiebilly11
Yes, pale emperor, those three chairs, arms folded, expressions hardened, hearts dead, prejudged, fate sealed. Pointless exercise...serves only to humilate the 'accused'. An exercise in voyeurism.....More love in an abattoir..
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Reveal- Trey Bundy: New documents about Jehovah’s Witnesses’ sex abuse begin to leak out
by AndersonsInfo innew jehovah's witnesses document dump provides a grim play-by-play of how the religion deals with sexual abuse.
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/new-documents-about-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-begin-to-leak-out/.
by trey bundy / january 10, 2018 .
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shocking, and very disappointing....sighs.
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"This Assembly Hall in Denmark was designed and built by the Watchtower Bible and Track Society" by NoOneSpecial JW Published on 30 Sep 2017
by oppostate inthis assembly hall in denmark was designed and built by the watchtower bible and track society before drones and google earth were around.
the governing body did not count on this being exposed from the arial view.
according to the 1993 year book on denmark assembly hall.
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westiebilly11
Of course it was done deliberately..nothing is left to chance. More to this than meets the eye..literally. But why? What is the real truth behind the public image of a charity...?...Were I still in, I'd be alarmed...but then if I was still in I'd never look at anything that would challenge my conditioned beliefs...would I?..
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Did man really go to the moon?
by atomant inl have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.
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My doubts...did technology really exist capable of ensuring safe transport of men to moon back in late 1960's?...where are photos of debris etc left behind on moon surface?....I keep an open mind as I was old enough to have watched it all on TV..! It seemed real, but TV etc was all low tech and so we could all have been fooled...
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2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals
by Drearyweather in2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.
peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .
regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .
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westiebilly11
Aux pioneering ( as it was back then..) and Pioneering etc took real effort and planning. It was hard. These days it's virtually standing on street corner with a cart...effortless, but easy to rack up hours and numbers..
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here's "Crisis Of Conscience" chapter on This Generation by Ray Franz
by mind blown in.
http://web.archive.org/web/20031210004130/users.volja.net/izobcenec4/coc/10.pdf.
just saw a youtube clip of mr. franz while he as visiting prauge.....it was some kind of news conference....he said he didn't regret his time with the wts because he would have never been able to experience first hand what he witnessed for himself...... .
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westiebilly11
This marvellous book needs to be re released now. Very timely and , to misquote, 'Food at the needed/proper time..'....It has so much relevance in these distorted times.