Posts by westiebilly11

Has this always been so or is it new? Paying staff?..Safeguarding vulnerable beneficiaries etc?... just wondering. I notice that not every congregation has this Policies section..

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If Angels in the Bible are of neuter gender ? Then why are they always depicted as males by description and name ? And never a female ?

by smiddy3 in

in all of the art i`ve seen in christendom, angels always have the form of a male, and in the bible those that are named always have a male name such as michael ,gabriel , etc, .

nowhere in the art world that i have seen do angels have the female form, and in the bible they don`t have female names.. so if the angels are neither male or female why then are they depicted as males with male names ?and not female also ?.

the watchtower illustrators also follow this line .when they illustrate an angel it is always in the form of a male and never a female form.. the anointed who make up the 144000 comprise of male and females right ?

westiebilly11

Dear Daniel, If , as you suggest, God made Adam , aka first man, to be alone, without a 'planned woman', why did he equip Adam with a penis/reproductive organs? and, before you reply that a penis was an 'add on', made after God made Eve, then are you suggesting God made two Adams, or gave him an upgrade to enable sex?..In which case, Adam was perfect 'twice'..Logically. Best wishes.

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giving to jehovah part this week

by road to nowhere in

i love it!!

the brother started by saying we know our donations don't go to the local brothers -- you don't see us wearing gold rings, fancy jewelry (watches?

) wonder if he notices who does?.

westiebilly11

In my experience I've known individuals help others discreetly and anonymously. But I have never known of the congregation helping as a whole. There are/were kind individuals who helped with their own money and with , i believe, genuine motives. When a sister lost her daughter a certain mature elder, now passed away, gave her a meaningful sum of money to defray the cost of her flying to Africa to attend to matters. But the body of elders as a whole always seemed reluctant/unwilling to help.

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What Are The Differences Between JWs Born In and Converted?

by minimus in

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i tend to think that many jws who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of jehovah’s witnesses.

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i’m not embarrassed by my years “in the truth “ because i was raised from infancy to believe everything was god’s word and who are we to question jehovah and his organization?

westiebilly11

Born in's, perhaps, have little or no choice and accept ( sometimes reluctantly, sometimes complacently) the safety and comfort of family and social environment.

In my experience I have seen certain 'company ' elders adopt youngsters and 'groom' them to accept and follow the JW doctrines and traits.

Those who 'convert' ( myself ..) differ in that we actively chose to convert and leave the outside 'evil' world, depending on how good our mentors were who brought us in to the 'Truth'.

In both cases, the person who is convinced, against his will , remains unconvinced still... a ticking timebomb...

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The effect Crisis of Conscience has...

by pleaseresearch in

would love to read this book one day and give it to my mum and brother who are both in the organisation.. so many people i see on videos claim that this book was the nail in the coffin.

but do you know anyone where it had no effect on them?.

westiebilly11

Excellent book. It reaches out to many because it seeks/explains the facts without leaving stones unturned, despite the watchtower's attempts to control writer and reader. It was a real eyeopener for me. Were I God I'd make those few controlling the organization accountable for their contempt, deceit, and manipulation of the many.

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Court documents reveal Watchtower's tactics in Montana child abuse case

by LevelThePlayingField in

there were numerous objections and claims that watchtower lawyers made to try and get out of being held responsible for their negligence and malice.

here’s the juicy ones:.

montana is a mandatory reporting state, but watchtower lawyers claimed that the law for reporting abuse only applies to “individuals” and they are “corporations”.

westiebilly11

Very good points re trustees taking out personal liability insurance. Locally, several 'trustees' are quite young men who view trusteeship as a wonderful privilege..not a liability... All potential trustees should seek independent legal advice before accepting trusteeship...

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* 2018 Mergers and changes to UK congregations *

by truthseeker in

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i have a document containing a list of all congregations in the uk.

periodically i go through the links and check to see if they're still registered as charities and if the location of the congregation is the same.. instead of posting a large list of changes all at once, i will be adding each change that i find in a new reply to this thread.. please check back here periodically.. truthseeker.

westiebilly11

Here in southwest uk two local devon congregations have merged. Sticklepath have gone and are merged with Pilton to result in just Barnstaple Congregation...

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JW org collapses

by I Faded Twice in

ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.

honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.

to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.

westiebilly11

As a registered charity surely they are subject to rigorous audits?. Any financial wobbles would surely be picked up by the relevant authorities?...