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6A Creative Giant, A True Renaissance Man Died Today:
by SixofNine inhttp://www.nndb.com/people/248/000027167 /.
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/fsahtml/fachap07.html .
http://www.culturevulture.net/television/gordonparks.ht... .
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Theocratic Warfare Strategy - Lies have long been part of the plan.
by unclebruce ing'day fellow liars,
considering themselves to occupy the moral high ground, many jehovah's witnesses are blissfully unaware that the watchtower bible and tract society encourages them to lie.
many would run screaming apostate lies!
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TMS
Factoring in the "Theocratic War Stategy" and the double life witnesses almost certainly lead, lieing is pervasive among JW's.
Kids lie at school about their non-participation in almost everything, because the truth is too embarassing. These same kids later lie to the elders when questioned about "the desires incidental to youth."
Elders misrepresent the true nature of a meeting that eventually becomes a judicial committee.
Assembly overseers misrepresent the true financial situation of a convention to solicit contributions.
Elders frequently tell a publisher that "the matter has become a concern to many in the congregation" when, in fact, it has not.
Pioneers misrepresent the real reason they work part-time or not at all to qualify for welfare or government handouts.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses makes changes under the guise of "simplification" that are actually changes made for financial reasons.
Almost every experience told at a convention of Jehovah's Witnesses is greatly embellished or an outright lie.
tms
ps: I once worked with a brother in field service who, if he met a Baptist, told the householder: "I used to be a Baptist." If he met a Catholic, he said: "I used to be a Catholic." I questioned him about this. He laughed and said it was "Theocratic Strategy."
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Just how hyped was 1975?
by MuadDib inaight.
i was raised in the jws, but i'm still young (22) and all my life what i've been told is that the society never really promoted 1975 as the definitive year for the coming of armageddon.
what i was always told is that some overzealous witnesses took certain things out of context and developed a very extreme reaction - ie selling their houses, quitting their jobs, dropping out of school, etc.
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It was very common during the mid to late 60's to announce at the Service Meeting how many months were left in this system. I served as a servant, Congregation Servant and elder during this entire period from the release of the "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God" book in the summer of '66 till '75 and twenty years beyond. Hype about '75 was never discouraged by Brooklyn.
I recall an elder in the early 70's stating that most of us could figure within a thousand dollars how much money we would need until the end of this system.
A congregation in north Texas refinanced their Kingdom Hall in the late 60's with a local mortgage company. The mortgage had an ascending scale of interest, modest until the mid-70's and then ballooning from there. They were so proud of their cleverness.
Of course, many made poor financial and health decisions based on the hype.
The governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses missed a wonderful opportunity to show manliness and humility and admit how misleading and damaging their pre-'75 hype had been. Instead, they took the cowardly way out and blamed the brotherhood for overreacting.
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Has there been any fall out yet over the Higher Education WT article?
by truthseeker inhave you heard any complaints about the wt article on higher education?.
are there those for college?
against college?.
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{QUOTE}There are many JWs now in their 60's and 70's that have spent their lives cleaning homes and selling useless magazines. Do you think they want to face the fact that it was not worth it? Of course not. They would rather you throw your life away too. {/QUOTE}
No, I don't want any of you younger ones to waste their lives as I've wasted mine. Sometimes, ex-JW's say it wasn't all so bad. Our life experiences make us what we are blah, blah, blah. Being one of Jehovah's Witnesses and not living up to your potential is a wasted life!
I'm not an unhappy person by any stretch of the imagination, but I have many, many regrets. Not pursuing an education, not having a larger family, wasting over 50 years living a lie.
One of our young JW nephews recently joined the military. The family is aghast! My wife and I are so happy for him. Now, at least, he has a life!
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Was Judge Rutherford a Success?
by VM44 incan judge rutherford be considered successful person?
the answer is "yes, he was very successful indeed.".
this is amazing, because rutherford really was quite an ignorant man, particularly about science.. he was, however, very very crafty, and was able to place himself as president for life of a religious organization, and have all the members of the religion thinking that he was chosen by jehovah god himself to lead and manage the religion.
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Rutherford was a success as a politician, a failure as a family man.
He was an opportunist, a bigot, a bully, a charismatic speaker, a hack writer.
In another life, I see Joseph as a successful rock promoter.
tms
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What would dear sweet Judge Rutherford be like as a poster on JWD?
by unclebruce inthe following is a letter from j rutherford.
emphasis mine.
has anyone any other examples of the sweet man expressing righteous indignation?
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The Judge would be a frequent and loquacious poster. He would win many admirers with his hard-hitting anti-Watchtower drivel. Over time he would be invited to serve as a Forum Assistant. In that capacity he would successfully banish a number of quick-witted potential enemies.
His service to Simon would take on an increasingly larger role as he became more familiar with the technical aspects of running a forum. Eventually, he would seize control of the forum on an internet technicality. Many would leave the forum over this turn of events.
Rutherford would impose his personality over the forum and change its name. All of the threads would be started by him personally with copies of these threads made available to the general public.
All of the remaining posters would rejoice and see Jehovah's hand in all this.
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Who is the King of Apostates ?
by Genesis ini would say either ray franz, randall waters, danny hasgard (sorry for the bad spelling dude) or satan.
what is your opinion on that ?
joff
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St. Farkle
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What was the nastiest house you got invited into?
by Virgochik inwe actually has a study with a disabled elderly couple living in a trailor.
it was wall to wall filth, rat infested and smelled awful.
i was a child, but mom and dad brought me along anyway.
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My wife had studies in several of these type homes. If they made any progress at all, we would usually help them "redecorate".
One lady, Brenda, in rural Arkansas, was the worst. She had three kids near school age, not trained to use the restroom. Excrement was smeared all over the walls. Space heaters raised the indoor temperatures in the winter to about 85F.
I would sit in a recliner near a window and raise the window for fresh air to breath. My primary occupation was suppressing the gag reflex.
On a subsequent study, "my" recliner was out in the yard. Brenda said it had a rat's nest in it.
Brenda eventually became a JW. For some reason a very prissy Circuit Overseer included her in his car group. The CO came back from the territory early. Brenda's five year old had pooped in the back seat of his immaculate Chrysler.
Those were the days.
tms
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WalMart may be the most hated, but most emulated company in the world.
My employer for thirty years, The Kroger Company, has an intense fear of WalMart on many levels, but did everything to copy the retailer. Kroger downsized its health benefits to match WalMart whenever permitted. Countless stories of WalMart's strongarming of suppliers were told at Kroger sales meetings in almost a giddy, hero-worshipping tone.
My cancelled checks each month seem to indicate several monopolies in their field: WalMart, Home Depot, AutoZone, Best Buy. Would I every patronize a local business instead of these biggies? Probably not.
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Have you ever done an Exit Interview?
by Scully ini've heard of some companies that do what they call exit interviews for employees who leave the company.. this is from an archive on google that describes how to conduct an exit interview with someone who is voluntarily leaving the company:.
the exit interview.
the exit interview is an interview given to a departing employee.
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Scully,
The exit interview concept would extraordinarily revealing to the GB, but, of course, they would never implement such interviews. They already know why we left:
1. We were not "of their sort".
2. We succumbed to "the desires of the flesh".
3. We lacked humility.
4. We are not a true "sheep".
5. We are unrepentant.
6. We did not love Jehovah.
tms