I'm surprised that the material would actually burn! LOL!
tms
i was df'ed tonight and celibrated by throwing an apostate bbq!!.
http://www.quad-central.com/~dan2007/apostate%20bbq/.
ps - yes, i know i said goodbye, i just meant i won't be a regular anymore, i still love you guys and will post when i can!
I'm surprised that the material would actually burn! LOL!
tms
ok, the homemade chicken noodle soup is cooking so i have about ten minutes to share something with you.. ****fake name/family relationships alert*** critical info has been changed to protect the innocent.
i called a business contact that i've gotten to know over the past year today.
i said, "rico, let's go to lunch.".
Rico is obviously not of their "sort."
tms
how do you think the gb members along with the cos and elders should be punished for the way they emotionally and spiritually abuse and hurt the flocks of the naive r&f?
Finding happiness in your life and wasting precious few moments of freedom dwelling on the past.
tms
i know that this is a morbid topic, but i often wonder what kind of funeral that i should have.
i mean, i'm not associated with any religion.
i don't want a preacher there speaking about the afterlife or trying to recruit followers.
Actually, my wife and I decided many years ago while still very active witnesses, not to have funerals. We wanted no one to spend one minute or one dollar travelling to pay their respects.
My wife had always favored cremation and I came around to that about twenty years ago. Originally, we wanted our ashes tossed into the Arkansas River. We've modified that to the Laguna Madre, a half mile from our home.
Ironically, as a witness, I had become sort of a funeral specialist. I gave my first funeral talk at 19 and things sort of mushroomed as people think of you when someone dies. It's such an uncomfortable duty as the natural inclination is to talk about the person we have lost while the Society's outline is an infomercial for Jehovah's Witnesses.
A few years ago, I wrote a brief account on JWD of the funeral of someone I respected: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/7554/1.ashx
tms
been gone a while, i havent posted a topic here for since 2004, but remembered this story this morning, so i thought id make a post.
dungy idols!
ring a bell with you?
Yes, Duncan.
There's a lot of shit in the Bible(although, I no longer have a personal copy).
All JWD posters will be those "slain by Jehovah" and will be as "manure(shit) on the surface of the ground."
Was it King Eglon who got waxed while "easing nature"(taking a shit)?
The Mosaic law delicately discussed the proper disposal of excrement(shit).
tms
now that the gerontocrats have dispensed with their annual springtime campaign of blustering everyone away from the wine and bread, it's now time to for the yearly decalogue of decorum; an epistle to the clueless.. in the april kingdom ministry the old farts tackle their annual chore of getting their dubbies to somehow behave like normal, thoughtful human beings when let loose on the public away from their kingdom halls.. what do we find on page 5?
``reminders" to the rabble not to save seats; not to leave the premises during the noon lunch break, nor to bring booze or large coolers; to tip at least 15% to 20% when dining at restaurants.
this, i believe is a first; they now feel they have to coach jws on just how much is considered apopropriate by ``worldly" (read ``normal") human beings.
One year the brothers booked the Radisson Memphis just down the road from the famous Peabody.
Honestly, the hotel was far too upscale for the Arkansas circuits. I nearly died seeing many JW's dragging trash bags in lieu of luggage.
The valet parking was another unfamiliar aspect. One sister was crying at the front desk. She had given the attendant $5.00 on the first day of the assembly and thought it was for the entire three days. She was shrieking something to the desk clerk about the Society not telling her about the valet parking.
Another embarrassment: Because of convention duties, I rode with a young elder to the hotel. Our wives were coming up later. The young brother wanted to eat. I had no money with me. He said he would simply put it on his card. We ordered two $9.00 hamburgers. His card came back denied. He had used his card to hold the room. They locked in his entire balance until checkout.
The Radisson Memphis was not on the list the following year.
tms
my house is at; .
it's an old pic but still pretty good!.
anyone else want to play?
26.20' 24.06N
97.25' 09.06W Small fishing village. Elevation 1 ft. It would be interesting to see if someone could identify this unincorporated town. The Spanish JW's do come. They don't like the sound of my min pin's bark so they usually knock on the door of my laundry building and leave a tract in the door.
tms
jehovah's witnesses will be experiencing a special treat during their co (circuit overseer) visit this season: a bona-fide pledge drive.. during the thursday night meeting the normal co talk will instead be a video entitled:.
building kingdom halls advances true worship.
this 30-minute advances video is well produced and explains the watchtower society's program to build simplified kingdom halls in third-world and poor countries were materials and funds are scarce.. interviews and footage focus on south america, africa and eastern europe.
"Yes I saw it last week at the CO visit - quite good actually - and believe it or not - they do not beg for money - they THANK the brothers for the contributions that made it all possible - my respect for the society went up about 100% for that" A subtle pitch, but a pitch nonetheless. . . .
i just received this news from a bro who has connections in bethel.... .
bro albert d schroeder died at 10:30 am new york time today at brooklyn bethel...he was 94 yrs old.. he was born on april 7, 1911 in saginaw, michigan and entered bethel service in 1932. he was appointed a member of the governing body on december 18, 1974. bro schroeder's life story appeared in the march 1, '88 wt pages 10-17: entitled: "my life in jehovah's spirit-directed organization.".
i don't know if the "today" means it was actually today...as i can't be sure when my friend received this news... but anyway, another of the old guys bites the dust.. .
Albert Schroeder was in his element in a Watchtower classroom where he controlled the flow of information. He had a professorial bearing and appeared to show a genuine interest in each student. He had a unique teaching style, ending nearly every other sentence with a rhetorical question.
His "off the cuff" talks were much more interesting than his convention manuscript efforts.
Several classroom techniques could be mistaken for brilliance. I attended the Kingdom Ministry School in Pittsburg, PA in early 1970 with Brothers Schroeder and Davis conducting. Walking into the basement classroom after my three day bus trip, I saw this large curly-haired figure cutting across the room to me with an extended hand. "You must be a Pioneer!" were Schroeder's words.(I wondered if it was my sunburn or my thrift shop suit that gave me away.) I later realized that a recent photo accompanied each application and Schroeder knew exactly who was coming in.
During classroom discussion, Schroeder called on every student by name without stumbling. Here again, there was mandatory seating and he memorized the chart. He also would not answer any question during his talk, only afterwards. After the discourse, he would answer each question in the order the student raised his hand, but he would not allow the student to phrase the question. He already "knew" the question based on the point of his outline that the hand went up and the hundreds of previous courses he had taught. He would simply "answer" the question and the student would get this dumbfounded "how'd he do that?" look.
Several times after a long classroom day, Schroeder would change very quickly into casual clothes and be out front with the then 12 year old Judah Ben, throwing a baseball back and forth. At the time, I thought this was an obviously staged event to show the brothers that even this busy Watchtower leader made time for his kid. He could easily have waited ten minutes until we all had dispersed, but he did not. I did not fault him for this, but viewed it as an extension of his "teaching."
In discussing Watchtower history, Schroeder painted Russell as a gentle pastor, even imitating his figure-eight oratorical style. He said less about Rutherford, but implied that he was a demanding man.
Each class has the egotistical know-it-all. Schroeder had a nice way of deflating the pompous.
Until a few years ago, I used to think about my "anointed" grandfather, A.J. DeMan, looking down on me. Now, I'm reasonably certain he and Albert are gone forever.
tms
aight.
i was raised in the jws, but i'm still young (22) and all my life what i've been told is that the society never really promoted 1975 as the definitive year for the coming of armageddon.
what i was always told is that some overzealous witnesses took certain things out of context and developed a very extreme reaction - ie selling their houses, quitting their jobs, dropping out of school, etc.
Jankyn,
The explanation about the indefinite period between Adam and Eve's creation was well discussed before the release of "Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God" in 1966 and the subsequent hype about 1975. Even the book "All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial" published in 1963 has a thorough discussion of this topic in the chapter entitled "Chronology." (I no longer have a copy or I would give you the page and paragraph number.)
This whole matter was a subject of discussion in my congregation in Washington state prior to the 1966 conventions. My uncle, Russell Poggensee, returned from a refresher KM School course barely able to contain himself about the new light. He sort of botched its presentation though. All he could say was that the Society had figured out exactly when 6,000 years of human history would end and the thousand year reign begin. Others in the congregation found the above information in the SI book and refuted his claims.
I'm sure my uncle felt vindicated post '66 convention, but the arguments still stood. What surprises me the most is that many who knew the '75 prediction was bogus are still witnesses.
tms