nice double entendre, refiners fire!
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21Spiritual Widow??
by Xena ini was looking at the link nelly has posted for the bethel tours and went to the comment sections.
they had posted a comment from a "spiritual widow" and i had to wonder what the heck they meant by that???
what do they consider her hubby already dead???
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1957 in Bible Prophecy
by TMS inan internet site published a couple of years ago a portion of chapter 10 of coc detailing a schroeder, klein, suiter proposal that the phrase this generation of matt.23:34 began in 1957. the idea was that the power of heaven was shaken with the onset of the space age, notably the launching of the first sputnik.. the fact sheet given each governing body member to study was reproduced in the franz book.
evidently, the gb considered the merits of this proposal, deciding to stick with the view of this generation that was current at the time.. this little tidbit affected me greatly, moving me to order coc.
that such a whimsical, ludicrous concept would be entertained by grown men, let alone spirit-directed men astonished me.. as an elder, if a brother had approached me with this idea, my inclination would have leaned toward his having serious mental health issues.. .
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I recall as a young man scanning the sky for Sputnik in 1957. A faint light arced across the summer sky. No reasonable person would conclude that the "power of heaven" had been shaken.
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1957 in Bible Prophecy
by TMS inan internet site published a couple of years ago a portion of chapter 10 of coc detailing a schroeder, klein, suiter proposal that the phrase this generation of matt.23:34 began in 1957. the idea was that the power of heaven was shaken with the onset of the space age, notably the launching of the first sputnik.. the fact sheet given each governing body member to study was reproduced in the franz book.
evidently, the gb considered the merits of this proposal, deciding to stick with the view of this generation that was current at the time.. this little tidbit affected me greatly, moving me to order coc.
that such a whimsical, ludicrous concept would be entertained by grown men, let alone spirit-directed men astonished me.. as an elder, if a brother had approached me with this idea, my inclination would have leaned toward his having serious mental health issues.. .
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Someone will possibly know that, SexyTeen, but the matter is discussed in "Crisis of Conscience", pps 249-254, with the photocopy of the information sheet supplied to the individual governing body members on P.250.
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1957 in Bible Prophecy
by TMS inan internet site published a couple of years ago a portion of chapter 10 of coc detailing a schroeder, klein, suiter proposal that the phrase this generation of matt.23:34 began in 1957. the idea was that the power of heaven was shaken with the onset of the space age, notably the launching of the first sputnik.. the fact sheet given each governing body member to study was reproduced in the franz book.
evidently, the gb considered the merits of this proposal, deciding to stick with the view of this generation that was current at the time.. this little tidbit affected me greatly, moving me to order coc.
that such a whimsical, ludicrous concept would be entertained by grown men, let alone spirit-directed men astonished me.. as an elder, if a brother had approached me with this idea, my inclination would have leaned toward his having serious mental health issues.. .
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Appreciate all the witicisms and the Biblical perspective of aChristian, but wish to give this baby another ride.
Did any current or ex-JW not feel even slightly bemused that the governing body would in 1980 seriously consider adjusting the understanding of "this generation" up another 43 years to eliminate the embarassing uneventful prolonging of time?
My gut feeling is that Albert Schroeder orchestrated this attempt at changing doctrine. He had already made statements two years earlier in talks given in Europe that conflicted with the Society's understanding. Also, he was the governing body chairman at that time and would be responsible for the meeting agenda.
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Avoiding arguments/hurt feelings on JW.com
by teejay infor exjws (and jws, too), simon's forum is one of the most interesting and potentially beneficial sites on the entire internet since it's a small-scale version of life as it really is.
people from a variety of social, racial and national groups who make up an extended familytied together by a common history of life in the borgcome to share their day to day experiences and openly debate issues old and new.. as different as we are, breakdowns in communication happen and instead of learning something or getting a fresh way of looking at an issue, what should be a reasonable debate turns into an insult-fest.
people, some still hurting from bad experiences as a dub, get hurt even more and bitter feuds result that are felt for a long time.
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TJ,
Had this typed once and lost it.
First of all. . sorry about injecting silliness into a serious thread.
OK, off the top of my head:
Words like “braindead” are hard not to take literally. Either, all brain activity has ceased or never existed.
As JW’s, we liked to use the phrase “willful ignorance”, referring to persons who had access to info that could have redirected their life, but chose not to access it. We may have stopped short of calling them “evil”, but saddled them with all the responsibilities associated with willful wrongdoers.
Years pass. We find that we ourselves have been willfully ignorant, by our own definition.
So, based on my own experience and my own self-estimation, I would be inclined to agree with you and stop short of prematurely labeling anyone or anything.
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1957 in Bible Prophecy
by TMS inan internet site published a couple of years ago a portion of chapter 10 of coc detailing a schroeder, klein, suiter proposal that the phrase this generation of matt.23:34 began in 1957. the idea was that the power of heaven was shaken with the onset of the space age, notably the launching of the first sputnik.. the fact sheet given each governing body member to study was reproduced in the franz book.
evidently, the gb considered the merits of this proposal, deciding to stick with the view of this generation that was current at the time.. this little tidbit affected me greatly, moving me to order coc.
that such a whimsical, ludicrous concept would be entertained by grown men, let alone spirit-directed men astonished me.. as an elder, if a brother had approached me with this idea, my inclination would have leaned toward his having serious mental health issues.. .
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An internet site published a couple of years ago a portion of Chapter 10 of CoC detailing a Schroeder, Klein, Suiter proposal that the phrase “this generation” of Matt.23:34 began in 1957. The idea was that the “power of heaven” was shaken with the onset of the space age, notably the launching of the first Sputnik.
The fact sheet given each governing body member to study was reproduced in the Franz book. Evidently, the GB considered the merits of this proposal, deciding to stick with the view of “this generation” that was current at the time.
This little tidbit affected me greatly, moving me to order COC.
That such a whimsical, ludicrous concept would be entertained by grown men, let alone spirit-directed men astonished me.
As an elder, if a brother had approached me with this idea, my inclination would have leaned toward his having serious mental health issues.
TMS
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Avoiding arguments/hurt feelings on JW.com
by teejay infor exjws (and jws, too), simon's forum is one of the most interesting and potentially beneficial sites on the entire internet since it's a small-scale version of life as it really is.
people from a variety of social, racial and national groups who make up an extended familytied together by a common history of life in the borgcome to share their day to day experiences and openly debate issues old and new.. as different as we are, breakdowns in communication happen and instead of learning something or getting a fresh way of looking at an issue, what should be a reasonable debate turns into an insult-fest.
people, some still hurting from bad experiences as a dub, get hurt even more and bitter feuds result that are felt for a long time.
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TJ,
“Perfectly horrible” of me to refer to you as a “verbal gymnast”? Since when is loquacious dexterity and agility a negative unless u factor in dishonesty?
On the other end of the spectrum is lockjaw. No one has accused either one of us of that.
Perhaps, u thought my implication was that of a double-jointed verbal contortionist, who squeezes himself into too small a box and defies logic by getting out.
No, nuthin’ horrible ‘bout a gymnast, verbal or otherwise. He has to keep his balance, stay on the beam, his timing impeccable to vault over his antagonists.
TMS
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I studied the The Paradise Book...
by teejay in"... soul-chilling terror will spread through the masses... .
a flesh-eating plague will destroy many... eaten up will be .
the tongues of those who scoffed and laughed at the warning .
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The pink cover and large print belied the serious condemnatory message of this children's book.
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A Simple Life
by TMS inlarc mentioned our heritage as jws recently.
i used that same word in a response to a thread started by jt.
mrs. gene brandt, wife of the famous district overseer, spoke our her witness heritage in her life story, published in the watchtower.
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Larc mentioned our heritage as JW’s recently. I used that same word in a response to a thread started by JT. Mrs. Gene Brandt, wife of the famous district overseer, spoke our her Witness heritage in her life story, published in the Watchtower. The 1967 WTBS black and white documentary “Heritage” portrayed Witness young people as enjoying a legacy of a good conscience, peace and fulfillment, while their non-Witness counterparts suffered STD’s, illegitimate pregnancies, guilt, etc.
This all got me to thinking about what MY JW heritage might be. John Lennon’s words came to me: “You must have learned SOMETHING in all those years.”
I did. Frugality.
Most of us with extensive, active JW backgrounds come closer to the lifestyle of the half-penny pinching Henry David Thoreau than to Mark Cuban. “Putting the Kingdom first” necessitates creative economic adjustment. In my two person household, I am know as “Mr. Cheap”. My gentle protest is that my paycheck is put back into circulation quicker than a New York bellhop can show you his palm. Although, I admit to visiting the Frugal Living discussion board, “Insulating with Dryer Lint” is not my concept of frugality.
Turning the clock back thirty-five years, my wife and I enjoyed a lifestyle, almost sublime, on very little coin. Martin Jensen, the subject of an earlier post, had just died. His masonite 40’s vintage trailer sported a large hole on each side where Hurricane Beulah had blown a tree limb through it. The Congregation Servant’s wife had confiscated the only thing of value in the trailer, a pressure cooker, and consensus was, that if we wanted the trailer, it was ours.
We went to work. We covered the fuselage with heavy cheese cloth and applied Sears-Roebuck asphalt-aluminum coating, several coats. From a distance, the old trailer resembled an Airstream. We tiled the floor with alternating green/almond tiles and applied green epoxy to the fridge and stove. OK, we had a home. The CO suggested a $5.00 per month contribution for electricity. OK.
My $33.00 a week income enabled us to eat out EVERY meal. Panchita’s on 14th Street offered a platter-size flour tortilla with refried beans for 15 cents. Coffee was a dime extra, including refills. We usually had change in our pockets after morning field service and the basement cafeteria at Mercy Hospital took mercy on us with their 30 cent vegetable plate. We stopped on the way at a panaderia (bakery) and my wife had stuffed a bollio (french bread) in her purse. 10 more cents. Usually, this was enough food, but on some nights, we crossed the border , eating dinner at Papagayo’s. Bistec con papas fritas was 8 pesos (64 cents), including a stack of corn tortillas, frijoles, a bowl full of key limes and salsa.
In the Rio Grande Valley, there are still Ropa Segundas, large second hand clothing stores. The clothing comes in box car loads from up north and is bought by the ton. It is unloaded in large bales, which are dumped on the floor. Mexican women sort through these bales by throwing each garment over their shoulder. As the pile in front diminishes, a larger, looser one grows behind them. These women can tell by looking if any garment will fit any member of their family. My wife has these skills and years ago picked up many stylish garments at the then going rate of 10 cents each.
I will halt this boring soliloquy here. As Barbra sings: “It was all so simple then.”
TMS
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Avoiding arguments/hurt feelings on JW.com
by teejay infor exjws (and jws, too), simon's forum is one of the most interesting and potentially beneficial sites on the entire internet since it's a small-scale version of life as it really is.
people from a variety of social, racial and national groups who make up an extended familytied together by a common history of life in the borgcome to share their day to day experiences and openly debate issues old and new.. as different as we are, breakdowns in communication happen and instead of learning something or getting a fresh way of looking at an issue, what should be a reasonable debate turns into an insult-fest.
people, some still hurting from bad experiences as a dub, get hurt even more and bitter feuds result that are felt for a long time.
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a veritable, verbal gymnast, tj
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