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  JW and Home Schooling WHY, WHY, WHY????????

  by Wordly Andre in

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  i just heard that my nephew will not be attending high school, instead will be doing home schooling, why do jws pressure their kids into home schooling?

  i really do love my nephew he is a bright kid, i think he would do really great in high school, and hopefully attend college, but i was informed yesterday that he will not be going to high school because its not safe, and besides he made the decision not to go.

  i am sorry but he should go, i know what they got planned for him, home school and full time service, this is the time of his life where he needs to concentrate on his education, he will end up just like his mother, who also never attended high school, seems that when your totally lost into the society, covering all aspects of your life, that leaves you socially inept, depressed, and have a distorted view of the world.

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  I've known a number of witness families who went this route. Frequently, the "teaching" responsibility fell on the mother of the household. Can you imagine adding to all the things a witness wife must do the additional heavy burden of "schooling" her children? It's a recipe for a nervous breakdown.

  I recall one home-schooled 12 year old boy in Arkansas. He was already a Regular Pioneer, took the lead or prayed at midweek meetings for service. By all appearances he was an extra-short middle-aged man with a high voice. He had all the JW lingo down pat and impressed all in his congregation with his "maturity." One elder in his congregation told me that if he were a little older, they would recommend him for ministerial servant in a heartbeat.

  I do not know what happened to this young man, but I do know that he was brought up totally insulated from the outside world. He would be about 26 now, so he maybe on the verge of eldership or self-destruction.

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  Roger Insellman, Barry Sobieski, Wade Payne – These guys still COs?

  by Seeker4 in

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  roger insellman, barry sobieski and wade payne were three of the poorest cos i can remember in the decades i was a jw.

  sobieski was a bully, using his authority to intimidate as much as possible.

  insellman was just not personable, and was such a company man is so many ways.

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  I knew Purvis pretty well, first when he was training under Eugene Brandt and later as a circuit overseer. He was actually a pretty down-to-earth guy who would not intentionally hurt a flea.

  I met a pompous circuit overseer in Texas named Payne in the late 60's. I worked in his boring Volunteer Department at the district convention, but I also made enchiladas in food service before the lunch hour. He "caught" me working in food service and even though my duties at the Volunteer Desk were being cared for as well, he chewed me out royally for "department-jumping." What an asshole!

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  Should Jehovah's Witnesses Be Allowed to Adopt Children?

  by TMS in

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  religion, race, sexual orientation etc.

  are not legal barriers to adoption in most areas.

  but knowing what you know now, if you were part of the decision-making process, would you be inclined to facillitate jw's to adopt?

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  "TMS said: "I came to the conclusion that Jehovah's Witnesses, in general, do not make good parents."
  

  I fail to agree.

  M"

  Masterji,

  Care to elaborate? How would you define the role of parents? Evidently, you feel that Jehovah's Witnesses, in general, make good parents.

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  Should Jehovah's Witnesses Be Allowed to Adopt Children?

  by TMS in

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  religion, race, sexual orientation etc.

  are not legal barriers to adoption in most areas.

  but knowing what you know now, if you were part of the decision-making process, would you be inclined to facillitate jw's to adopt?

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  So many thoughtful, well-reasoned comments above.

  Actually, I've been assessing my/our own performance as a parent/parents lately. In 1995 our neighbor of over twenty years, Mrs. Brown, paid us the finest complement we've ever received: "You two are the best parents I've ever seen. It was a pleasure to watch the way you dealt with your son these past twenty years."

  What Mrs. Brown saw over two decades was a family throwing the football, going to "church" frequently, getting ready for weekend trips and family vacations. She knew our little son received some recognition in grade school and probably felt the academic side was well cared for. Good grooming, dress and manners may have contributed to her overall impression.

  What our neighbor from across the street didn't see was the reality of what has been stated in this thread. If good parenting is preparing children to function well and productively on their own, Jehovah's Witnesses don't do very well. The stunted social skills, the educational and cultural deprivations and the tunnel-visioned religionism are well-documented. Many, like us, do the very best they can within the framework of their belief system. But the concept that JW's are "better mothers and fathers, better children, better employees and employers, etc." is a myth.

  I came to the conclusion that Jehovah's Witnesses, in general, do not make good parents.

  Thus, the question posed in this thread.

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  Should Jehovah's Witnesses Be Allowed to Adopt Children?

  by TMS in

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  religion, race, sexual orientation etc.

  are not legal barriers to adoption in most areas.

  but knowing what you know now, if you were part of the decision-making process, would you be inclined to facillitate jw's to adopt?

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  Religion, race, sexual orientation etc. are not legal barriers to adoption in most areas.

  But knowing what you know now, if you were part of the decision-making process, would you be inclined to facillitate JW's to adopt? Or would you discreetly steer things in another direction, knowing the difficulties that children of JW's will experience?

  Just a few of the factors: the blood issue, the anti-higher education views, the high-control and guilt JW's face, the lack of social development.

  tms

  ps I accidentally posted the "experiences" section, instead of "friends". Perhaps, a moderator will be kind enough to make the correction.
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  PO said automation and declining contributions reason for Bethel layoffs

  by truthseeker in

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  last week at the meeting, the po, who has very close connections to bethel, said that he never thought he would see the day that bethelites were being sent home.

  he said that the biggest two reasons he thought bethel were cutting back, was automation and a massive decline in contributions.

  looks like you're right metatron about the contribution aspect being their achilles heel.

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  All of the above the result of the Watchtower Society submitting a "Friend of the Court" brief in the Jimmy Swaggart case or as the WT likes to refer to it: "Simplification."

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  My revenge against the WTS

  by Genesis in

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  hi folks, .

  after 7 months out of the cult and my 20e birthday approaching (next week) i sorted out what i would do with my life.

  after i exited the borg i thought about various plans like touring the world or infiltering the congregation and fight the borg or becoming a professional musician (music is a hobbie for me).

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  Genesis,

  On behalf of thousands of elderly ex-JW's who wasted their vitality chasing the futile promises of one of the most destructive religious cults in history, I wish you well.

  tms
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  The Next Top Apostate!

  by Swan in

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  mouthy is one of the coolest people on this board.

  she has also been out of the jws far longer than most of us.. but with mouthy leaving, who will be our next top apostate?

  duties: keep the seat warm until mouthy comes back.

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  Jesus Christ
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  Governing Body member Gerrit Lösch spoke at my District Convention

  by under_believer in

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  gerrit losch (it's pronounced kinda like "lirsh") did two things at our dc (portland, or june 30-july 2).

  he released the new book about the minor prophets, and he gave the closing talk, the one with the resolution in it.

  first of all, losch was not promoted to the governing body because of his speaking ability.

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  I agree, Bro. Losch, Christians should avoid futbol (soccer). tms
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  Governing Body member Gerrit Lösch spoke at my District Convention

  by under_believer in

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  gerrit losch (it's pronounced kinda like "lirsh") did two things at our dc (portland, or june 30-july 2).

  he released the new book about the minor prophets, and he gave the closing talk, the one with the resolution in it.

  first of all, losch was not promoted to the governing body because of his speaking ability.

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  TMS